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why??? is ib certificate??? not equivalent??? to a-levels?????????

was i to do 3 ib certificates that’s like three a-levels??? why is only the ib diploma recognized by uk universities? why do I have to take THree more subjects (not to mention higher levelss) aNd tok anD cas and do a mini dissertation???????

someone explain this to me, because it sounds to me very. VERY. Unfair.

is it about having the opportunity to take full diploma? bc uk admission officers do realise that not everyone who drops the ib diploma does it out of laziness, right? it could be that that they dont want to take subjects from every subject group bc theyre arts inclined or sciences inclined (correct me if im wrong but is that not the whole premise that a levels are built on???). it could be that they want to reduce their workload so they can devote themselves to their favorite subjects. it could be that they want to tailor their program to better suit their ~learning preferences~ or ~work ethic~. it could be that the ib is really consuming and damaging to their mental health and theyre uhh..prioritizing their health. it could be personal circumstances?? it could be that they dont like the structure of some of their subjects, or find them limiting. i can go on FOREVER.

im an ib certificate student and i worked really ****ing hard these last two years (tbfh harder than some full ib students, that are just passing. i’m working towards 6-7’s). like REALLy hard. and it feels like a slap in the face to not be rewarded for that, to not to have my efforts recognized. all bc i dropped the full ib in my second year (for the very reasons i listed above), i now have to take a ‘foundation’ year when I DON’t NEED FOUNDATIONS and am damn sure i can do better in university than half the students you admit for direct entry??????
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by remaal
was i to do 3 ib certificates that’s like three a-levels??? why is only the ib diploma recognized by uk universities? why do I have to take THree more subjects (not to mention higher levelss) aNd tok anD cas and do a mini dissertation???????

someone explain this to me, because it sounds to me very. VERY. Unfair.

is it about having the opportunity to take full diploma? bc uk admission officers do realise that not everyone who drops the ib diploma does it out of laziness, right? it could be that that they dont want to take subjects from every subject group bc theyre arts inclined or sciences inclined (correct me if im wrong but is that not the whole premise that a levels are built on???). it could be that they want to reduce their workload so they can devote themselves to their favorite subjects. it could be that they want to tailor their program to better suit their ~learning preferences~ or ~work ethic~. it could be that the ib is really consuming and damaging to their mental health and theyre uhh..prioritizing their health. it could be personal circumstances?? it could be that they dont like the structure of some of their subjects, or find them limiting. i can go on FOREVER.

im an ib certificate student and i worked really ****ing hard these last two years (tbfh harder than some full ib students, that are just passing. i’m working towards 6-7’s). like REALLy hard. and it feels like a slap in the face to not be rewarded for that, to not to have my efforts recognized. all bc i dropped the full ib in my second year (for the very reasons i listed above), i now have to take a ‘foundation’ year when I DON’t NEED FOUNDATIONS and am damn sure i can do better in university than half the students you admit for direct entry??????


The whole point of IB is to do the range of subjects and some of them at higher level. If you do certificate then you cant score enough points to be equivalent to three A levels.

Someone who has done the full IB will have done more work than you plus the extended essay.

This was the explanation from another thread.

Because if you are doing only the certificate, then no, you can't enter a top twenty university as like I've said before, they look at you like someone who hasn't reach the 24 points to get the full diploma and hasn't do either CAS, TOK or the Extended Essay. Those three are obligatory in order to get a diploma, excluding the fact that you already need to reach 24 points by adding all the 6 subjects+CAS+TOK+EE and those last three are not taken by certificate students, thus leading that even though you get 7 in all 5 subjects you can only get up 35 points and you don't get the diploma, just a bunch of certificates basically saying that you attended lessons during two years and have done your exams, but that you haven't met the requirements to get the full diploma.

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1463832
Why didnt you do A levels if you wanted to specialise?

As it is you wont have done enough.
Original post by 999tigger
The whole point of IB is to do the range of subjects and some of them at higher level. If you do certificate then you cant score enough points to be equivalent to three A levels.

Someone who has done the full IB will have done more work than you plus the extended essay.

This was the explanation from another thread.

Because if you are doing only the certificate, then no, you can't enter a top twenty university as like I've said before, they look at you like someone who hasn't reach the 24 points to get the full diploma and hasn't do either CAS, TOK or the Extended Essay. Those three are obligatory in order to get a diploma, excluding the fact that you already need to reach 24 points by adding all the 6 subjects CAS TOK EE and those last three are not taken by certificate students, thus leading that even though you get 7 in all 5 subjects you can only get up 35 points and you don't get the diploma, just a bunch of certificates basically saying that you attended lessons during two years and have done your exams, but that you haven't met the requirements to get the full diploma.

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1463832
Why didnt you do A levels if you wanted to specialise?

As it is you wont have done enough.


ib diploma isn’t equivalent to ib certificates (btw i am doing tok and ee and cas, and 6 subjects based on ib syllabus, though 4 are internally examined, 2 are certificate. my school’s weird), true, but im talking about a levels

i would have done a levels. but my school doesn’t offer it and my parents didn’t let me change schools. i did nott want to do the ib from the get-go/did not care for the whole “point of it” but was pressured into it. come second year, considering all my circumstances, certificate was my only option
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by remaal
ib diploma isn’t equivalent to ib certificates (btw i am doing tok and ee and cas, and 6 subjects based on ib syllabus, though 4 are internally examined, 2 are certificate. my school’s weird), true, but im talking about a levels

i would have done a levels. but my school doesn’t offer it and my parents didn’t let me change schools. i did nott want to do the ib from the get go but was pressured into it. come second year, considering all my circumstances, certificate was my only option


What you are doing is not equivalent to three A levels, only the full diploma is. They are letting you into foundation year, which is about right. A person who has done 3 A levels will have done more work to a greater depth than someone who has done just certificate.
(edited 6 years ago)

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