Why do women want gender equality in the workplace, but not in dating?

One is a human, the other one isn't.

What?

A slow developer is like someone with downs syndrome. Medicine is now quite advance that doctors can find whether an unborn baby will have DS. The issue is that they wont know whether it will be moderate or extreme DS. Extreme DS shows severe mental retardation or slow cognitive development.

So you think that it is okay for a woman to kill a Downs Syndrome baby because it could affect her social life. Wow!

I think you are really young and probably naive. You need to mature a bit and then we can have a chat.

DS is about far more than slow cognitive development. I'm sure my friend would love if that was all the issues his 12 year old has. But he also has behaviour difficulties and no speech and he still requires a lot more care than most 12 year olds.

No, because I believe that whilst the "baby" is in the womb, they are not actually human beings yet (up to 36 weeks). So If a Mother killed a human (her child) then it's obviously murder. I do think she should give her child up to adoption

I think you are confused. Doctors will strongly disagree with your point.

The term 'baby' is a bit too vague for these kinds of arguments. It makes more sense to talk of a pregnancy involving the development of a foetus which at some point can be described as a 'person'. Until a foetus becomes a person then there's no 'murder'. Sure, you can argue about the point a foetus becomes a person but otherwise that is the distinction applied.

I do not agree. I do not think a woman has the right to decide the fate of an unborn child.

I agree that some people are too extreme either way. We are talking about the termination of life. Some people see it like changing shoes or some mundane thing.

I do agree that there are two extreme sides, im more in the middle.
But i do think that because the foetus is living inside of the woman, she should have the right to terminate. She isn’t an incubator solely for the care of her potential child, if her economic status will make the childs life and her life harder, or she simply isnt ready for the responsibilities of a child then it should be her choice.

You can try to make a distinction whatever way you like.

But abortion is legal and morally defended on the basis of such a distinction. If you can't, for example, satisfactorily demonstrate that a fertilised egg is suddenly a 'person' (as most of us would accept that term) then you won't easily convince supporters of abortion that it is wrong.

I am not here to convince supporters of abortion why they should not support the killing of unborn children. I am here to state my opinions...

That is the key problem. A woman should not have the right to take another person’s life.

If she gets pregnant and finds out that she is unable to take care of the offspring then there are opportunities for adoption and public support. There are women who take that step rather than terminating the unborn child.

I am getting tired of going round circles. It is ridiculous how people have attempted to bring up reasons to justify the killing of an unborn child.

In the end, like i wrote before, the woman can do whatever she wants. If she rips out her womb today, i would not care. However, my view is nobody should have a right over the fate of another person’s life.

So you don't want anyone to respond to your views if they are critical of them? I mean, we are all here stating our opinions aren't we? All you have to say is that your position is based on the premise that a fertilised egg is a 'child' or a 'person', no? Some of us, a lot of us, reject that premise is all.

You don’t seem to get that most people don’t consider a foetus a person, so getting an abortion isn’t seen as taking another person’s life. Until quite far along in pregnancy, the foetus cannot continue it’s “life” without the mother so it isn’t a separate entity.

You can believe that “life” starts at conception, but the point that life begins is opinion. It’s like calling a vegan a murderer and saying that they shouldn’t eat plants because they show signs of life, and some studies show plants can feel pain. We don’t think plants have as much right to life as humans, even though they grow and reproduce and ‘live’. To claim that eating plants is murder is ridiculous because their “life” is not equal to the life of a grown person, much like the “life” of an unborn foetus.

You’re going round in circles because you see the foetus to have as much value and life as a fully grown person, which most people find ludicrous and sometimes offensive. I don’t believe that anyone should be able to kill people, but a foetus isn’t a person. People will never take being called a murderer well, especially when they (and many others) don’t consider what they did murder.

...I think a fertilised conceived egg is a person...

I think you are confused. Doctors will strongly disagree with your point.

I am open to my views being debated but i am not here to convince you to accept my views. Two different things.

I think a fertilised conceived egg is a person. There is a debate on that point, even among doctors and seasoned medical thinkers. Some accept the 24-week threshold for abortion, others reject that. To me, i believe that life begins at conception.

This position suggests that you have a significantly different view of what constitutes 'personhood' to that of those who support abortion.

LOL. So you think an egg in a human? are you actually being serious lol.

I remember when I was walking down with my friend once and a bird dropped it's egg. Guess what came out of the shell? It was raw egg.
So how was that raw egg a bird? Isn't it not fair to say it is a bird until it hatches out of the egg and then you can call it a bird....

That raw egg cannot breathe, eat, sleep, feel etc...but you would seriously call it a bird?

No, I am not. I think 35 weeks is late. I would say 20 weeks. I do think women that want to abort should d it early as possible though.

It makes sense to say that a baby is not a human until it becomes developed..

It's like making a cake. The batter is not a cake until it finishes baking. Batter and the cake are two different things.