The NoFap thread (quting porn/masturbation)
I genuinely believe quitting porn and masturbation is the best life changing decision you can make today.
I watched porn from ages 14-20 1 to 3 times everyday. I believe this caused my social anxiety and shyness throughout those years which led to having few friends with lack of desire to make new ones and socialise. I came to uni and realised that the guys I live with were way more confident, funny, charismatic than I was. So I searched for ways for self-improvement and found no fap.
No Fap is a movement where people males and females give up porn and masturbation as it goes and in hand (sex if wish also) indefinitely or a period of time and seek out new ways to improve their lives. It is also tied to the fact of porn has on the brain - regarding dopamine and how brain rewire itself to a detrimental impact. I have been on my nofap journey for almost 3 years. My streaks have been far from perfect and I have relapsed probably 50 times. My longest streak was 138 days. It took 6 months to hit 90 days and I didn't do it again for another 1.5 years.
My general take away are that I am addicted to porn and will be for a long time. And giving up masturbation for 90 days is harder than any exam I've taken at Uni. The benefits I have gained have been increased social confidence, less anxiety, more motivation and discipline and willpower, a proper social life, more energy, desire to get a gf, desire to improve my life - I go to gym, read loads of books, I take cold showers, I have future aspirations now. I do **** that scares me - I went on an exchange programme idk if anyone else been on one but you really gotta step up and put yourself out there, and have worked abroad for last 2 summers and applying to work abroad once I graduate.
I have compiled some resources some of you might find useful. The idea is that you give up porn and masturbation for 30 days and see if it has any effect on you and go from there. I hope some of you younger folk can take up this challenge because I wish someone at age 14 would have told me about no fap - I genuinely believe I would have had a completely different teenage years.
This thread is not a mass debate. I know a lot of you want to shut me down and say how I wrong. My response would be don't mock it until you tried it or go further than you went before. And if you are so passionate about saying I'm wrong, you can't really defend that its normal natural healthy to sit in a dark room, hoping no one comes in, watching pixels of increasingly hardcore questionable content, and then when finished deleting the evidence and feeling terrible - 'when I come I come to my senses.'
I watched porn from ages 14-20 1 to 3 times everyday. I believe this caused my social anxiety and shyness throughout those years which led to having few friends with lack of desire to make new ones and socialise. I came to uni and realised that the guys I live with were way more confident, funny, charismatic than I was. So I searched for ways for self-improvement and found no fap.
No Fap is a movement where people males and females give up porn and masturbation as it goes and in hand (sex if wish also) indefinitely or a period of time and seek out new ways to improve their lives. It is also tied to the fact of porn has on the brain - regarding dopamine and how brain rewire itself to a detrimental impact. I have been on my nofap journey for almost 3 years. My streaks have been far from perfect and I have relapsed probably 50 times. My longest streak was 138 days. It took 6 months to hit 90 days and I didn't do it again for another 1.5 years.
My general take away are that I am addicted to porn and will be for a long time. And giving up masturbation for 90 days is harder than any exam I've taken at Uni. The benefits I have gained have been increased social confidence, less anxiety, more motivation and discipline and willpower, a proper social life, more energy, desire to get a gf, desire to improve my life - I go to gym, read loads of books, I take cold showers, I have future aspirations now. I do **** that scares me - I went on an exchange programme idk if anyone else been on one but you really gotta step up and put yourself out there, and have worked abroad for last 2 summers and applying to work abroad once I graduate.
I have compiled some resources some of you might find useful. The idea is that you give up porn and masturbation for 30 days and see if it has any effect on you and go from there. I hope some of you younger folk can take up this challenge because I wish someone at age 14 would have told me about no fap - I genuinely believe I would have had a completely different teenage years.
This thread is not a mass debate. I know a lot of you want to shut me down and say how I wrong. My response would be don't mock it until you tried it or go further than you went before. And if you are so passionate about saying I'm wrong, you can't really defend that its normal natural healthy to sit in a dark room, hoping no one comes in, watching pixels of increasingly hardcore questionable content, and then when finished deleting the evidence and feeling terrible - 'when I come I come to my senses.'
(edited 6 years ago)
What do you think on the so called benefits of it though? Many articles I see online about this say doing it frequtnyl reduces prostate cancer and problems with the tubes and stuff.
Original post by Dominoes
I believe this caused my social anxiety and shyness throughout those years which led to having few friends with lack of desire to make new ones and socialise. I came to uni and realised that the guys I live with were way more confident, funny, charismatic than I was. So I searched for ways for self-improvement and found no fap.
Interesting. You and I had entirely different experiences even though both of us masturbated an average amount. That being the case, I wouldn't agree the masturbation caused this. Make sense?
An indiscriminate YouTube video which completely neglects to provide any discernible citation for its (supposedly objective) scientific claims can hardly qualify as 'scientific evidence', in my view.
Original post by Apocalyps
Interesting. You and I had entirely different experiences even though both of us masturbated an average amount. That being the case, I wouldn't agree the masturbation caused this. Make sense?
porn is the main issue here and the effect it has on brain it messes up dopamine levels which does cause social anxiety . in regards to masturbation i think something changes when you quit and idk what scientifically but like the irish guy says the brain thinks its not reproducing and makes changes in order to to do so. i also think there is something to it when people say that semen is the life force energy. yes thats woo woo. but when you don't masturbate you just get this energy to do stuff
Original post by Less(e/o)n
An indiscriminate YouTube video which completely neglects to provide any discernible citation for its (supposedly objective) scientific claims can hardly qualify as 'scientific evidence', in my view.
ah yeah true. but what is backed up is two books 'your brain on porn' and 'the brain which changes itself'. and like the tobacco bloke says research isn't too much at the moment but it is building cos high speed internet pornn is only been around for what 15 years
Original post by Anonymous
What do you think on the so called benefits of it though? Many articles I see online about this say doing it frequtnyl reduces prostate cancer and problems with the tubes and stuff.
wet dreams are frequent. and if so loads of monks etc would die of prostate cancer
Original post by Dominoes
porn is the main issue here
So you've no issue with masturbation; simply the onset of pornography as a cause to your social anxiety. Hrm, perhaps a better reply to your initial statement should have been "Moderation is the key" as I wasn't a US Amish masturbator ... I enjoyed pornography as well, but perhaps not to the same amounts as you. Bringing us back my disagreement with your point: Although I masturbated and included pornography in my daily routine, I did not experience social anxiety as you (or your YouTube links) suggest.
Here's an example for you: Is drinking "bad"? Or is drinking excessively "bad"? I've witnessed successful people who enjoy a drink, and I've witnessed excessive drinkers destroy their lives. Does that mean we should all become teetotallers? I'm certain one can locate plenty of YouTube videos on the subject.
Original post by Apocalyps
So you've no issue with masturbation; simply the onset of pornography as a cause to your social anxiety. Hrm, perhaps a better reply to your initial statement should have been "Moderation is the key" as I wasn't a US Amish masturbator ... I enjoyed pornography as well, but perhaps not to the same amounts as you. Bringing us back my disagreement with your point: Although I masturbated and included pornography in my daily routine, I did not experience social anxiety as you (or your YouTube links) suggest.
Here's an example for you: Is drinking "bad"? Or is drinking excessively "bad"? I've witnessed successful people who enjoy a drink, and I've witnessed excessive drinkers destroy their lives. Does that mean we should all become teetotallers? I'm certain one can locate plenty of YouTube videos on the subject.
Here's an example for you: Is drinking "bad"? Or is drinking excessively "bad"? I've witnessed successful people who enjoy a drink, and I've witnessed excessive drinkers destroy their lives. Does that mean we should all become teetotallers? I'm certain one can locate plenty of YouTube videos on the subject.
Like I said this is not a mass debate I’m just inviting the people of TSR to the concept of no fap which they may wish to partake in
Original post by Dominoes
Like I said this is not a mass debate I’m just inviting the people of TSR to the concept of no fap which they may wish to partake in
Hilarious.
You can argue that 90% of porn is crap and not worth watching (Sturgeon's rule definitely applies). You can argue that using porn to become aroused is not a good idea. You can say that giving up crap porn has helped you.
But you can't argue in an area dedicated to sexual health that masturbation is harmful: Kinsey definitively showed that it wasn't seventy years ago. In an age when it was taboo (despite widespread availability of printed porn and 'stag' films) nearly all of the men and most of the women his group surveyed masturbated. No matter how often they did it, there were no harmful effects except guilt and thinking they were doing it 'too much'. The same results have been repeated numerous times, with the main changes being more women reporting doing it and fewer people feeling guilty.
But you can't argue in an area dedicated to sexual health that masturbation is harmful: Kinsey definitively showed that it wasn't seventy years ago. In an age when it was taboo (despite widespread availability of printed porn and 'stag' films) nearly all of the men and most of the women his group surveyed masturbated. No matter how often they did it, there were no harmful effects except guilt and thinking they were doing it 'too much'. The same results have been repeated numerous times, with the main changes being more women reporting doing it and fewer people feeling guilty.
Original post by Less(e/o)n
Hilarious.
It was the
Original post by Dominoes
as it goes and in hand
that made me laugh.
Original post by Dominoes
i think something changes when you quit and idk what scientifically but like the irish guy says the brain thinks its not reproducing and makes changes in order to to do so. i also think there is something to it when people say that semen is the life force energy. yes thats woo woo.
Your body literally cannot tell what caused an ejaculation. Advocates of this sex negative crap rarely go 'Oooh, you must stop having sex with your wife' though.
Does this random Irish YouTuber think that if you are, let's say sterilised via a vasectomy, that your brain makes changes in order to have babies?
high speed internet pornn is only been around for what 15 years
High speed internet anything hasn't been around for long. Widespread availability of porn goes back to the birth of civilisation.
Original post by unprinted
Your body literally cannot tell what caused an ejaculation. Advocates of this sex negative crap rarely go 'Oooh, you must stop having sex with your wife' though.
Does this random Irish YouTuber think that if you are, let's say sterilised via a vasectomy, that your brain makes changes in order to have babies?
High speed internet anything hasn't been around for long. Widespread availability of porn goes back to the birth of civilisation.
Does this random Irish YouTuber think that if you are, let's say sterilised via a vasectomy, that your brain makes changes in order to have babies?
High speed internet anything hasn't been around for long. Widespread availability of porn goes back to the birth of civilisation.
ur sabotaging my thread im just here to invite users to the community i feel will benefit them like it did to me and hundreds of thousands of others. whether no fap is healthy or not, scientific or not i decided that for me at least, watching hardcore pornography 1-3x a day for several years has added 0 benefit to my life. and no i can use the time and energy spent on watching porn to do productive things
Original post by Dominoes
i can use the time and energy spent on watching porn to do productive things
Mate, you shared your opinion. Don't be negative when others share theirs. It's the internet, ffs.
Original post by Dominoes
ur sabotaging my thread im just here to invite users to the community i feel will benefit them like it did to me and hundreds of thousands of others. whether no fap is healthy or not, scientific or not i decided that for me at least, watching hardcore pornography 1-3x a day for several years has added 0 benefit to my life. and no i can use the time and energy spent on watching porn to do productive things
So as someone else pointed out, it is crap porn that's the issue.
This is sexual health: you want another sub-forum.
wow you lot masturbate alot huh. Lately i've been doing it a lot less, i wouldn't say i'm part of this No Fap, but i just have less of a desire to and i think it's cool and when i do masturbate I try to do it without porn and that's the difficult part- i think No Fap is cool like to challenge yourself and i think everything should be done in moderation but personally I couldn't do it like a concerted effort to not masturbate, no no that's just way too excessive. go with the flow lmao
So, if you don't want to have, or have no chance of ever having sexual intercourse, ever.... and it's not based on a spiritual or religious reason or vow ...and you simply find pleasure in the act of masturbation and having orgasms (and personally need the sexual release) so you masturbate.....then what is the proper term.... if saying "I'm celibate" isn't true?
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