Brexit is an idiotic mistake - calendar week 7 summary

Ooooh, the big r-word has finally dropped! You guys looking forward already to more austerity, few -and poorly paying- jobs for graduates, and permanently lower living standards?

Brexit expected to lead the UK into recession within two years, investor survey says
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/brexit-expected-to-lead-the-uk-into-recession-within-two-years-investor-survey-says.html

Layoffs Arrive in Brexit Britain, and Auto Workers Are Up First
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-16/layoffs-arrive-in-brexit-britain-and-auto-workers-are-up-first

Britons spend less as Brexit fears bite
https://www.thenational.ae/business/britons-spend-less-as-brexit-fears-bite-1.703769

Pound to euro exchange rate: Sterling hits a new LOW thanks to Brexit uncertainty
https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/918144/pound-exchange-rate-euro

Brexit could see UK lose status as global business leader
https://www.itproportal.com/news/brexit-could-have-uk-lose-the-status-of-global-business-leader/

UK inflation sticks near five-year highs at 3%
https://www.ft.com/content/4ebcad02-10a0-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277

More investors looking to cut U.K. assets as Brexit uncertainty persists
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-investors-looking-to-cut-uk-assets-as-brexit-uncertainty-persists-2018-02-16

Eurozone economy storms ahead in sharp contrast to Brexit-hit UK
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/eurozone-economy-eu-brexit-uk-germany-growth-compare-british-industry-a8209886.html

Germany tells Theresa May 'time is running out' over Brexit talks
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/germany-tells-theresa-may-time-is-running-out-over-brexit-talks-828111.html

UK must boost productivity and focus on international competitiveness to weather Brexit, says IMF
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-brexit-imf-productivity-international-competition-trade-deals-international-money-fund-a8209711.html

British fruit farmer cutting jobs and expanding in China as Brexit uncertainty hits UK agriculture
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-fruit-farmer-china-expanding-business-brexit-uncertainty-cut-jobs-agriculture-cap-eu-a8208671.html

Majority of voters think Brexit will hit UK economy immediately, poll finds
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-voters-hit-economy-bmg-poll-trade-deal-single-market-customs-union-eu-a8207276.html

Theresa May's Brexit immigration plans are not 'feasible' and could turn into a 'real mess'
http://www.businessinsider.fr/uk/theresa-may-post-brexit-immigration-plan-not-feasible-home-affairs-committee-report-2018-2

EU wants power to raid financial firms in Britain after Brexit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/14/eu-wants-power-raid-financial-firms-britain-brexit/

EU may block Britain's Armed Forces from global satellite navigation system after Brexit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/17/eu-may-bar-britains-armed-forces-satellite-navigation-system/

Brexit means…more arms dealing to human rights abusers
https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/andrew-smith-sophia-turner/brexit-means-more-arms-dealing-to-human-rights-abusers

Japan thinks Brexit is an 'act of self-harm', says UK's former ambassador
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/15/japan-thinks-brexit-is-an-act-of-self-harm-says-uks-former-ambassador

Farming businesses 'could be wiped out after Brexit transition'
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/18/farming-businesses-could-be-wiped-out-after-brexit-transition

Dover could suffer '20-mile permanent traffic jam' after Brexit
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/14/dover-could-suffer-20-mile-permanent-traffic-jam-after-brexit

Opinion:

The trade delusion: why Brexit won’t be Britain's salvation
The notion that the UK will thrive outside the EU's customs union is an ideological fantasy.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/02/trade-delusion-why-brexit-won-t-be-britains-salvation

Boris Johnson’s big Brexit speech was high on rhetoric and short on answers
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/02/boris-johnson-s-big-brexit-speech-was-high-rhetoric-and-short-answers

Special report: Just to give you lot an idea what a monumental laughing stock Brexit Britain is in Germany, check out these pictures of our awesome carnival floats

German carnival MOCKS Brexit Britain - May is 'ripping crying UK from EU'
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/918264/Brexit-news-Karneval-Rose-Monday-parade-Germany-Theresa-May

Reply 1

_.Someone_

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Hell yea! I love having my standard of living lowered due to a vote I couldn't even partake in

Reply 2

southpacific

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This depresses me a bit, as I'm coming to study in UK this year

Reply 3

shawn_o1

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Original post by southpacific

This depresses me a bit, as I'm coming to study in UK this year

OP is not British but wants to rule Britain with an iron fist. He comes from the European elite who sneers at those below them. I bet even if the UK had remained, the majority of "experts" would still have predicted the same economic doom and gloom that they directly attribute to Brexit. Just for "thinking" about splitting from the EU. People generally don't react positively to blackmail unless they've been brought up to think that it's normal (a familiar concept with those who lived in the communist era)

Reply 4

Maker

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British people are always going on about the War when they talk about Brexit.

They obviously want War conditions such as less food, less fuel, conflict with other countries and trying to get the Empire back.

Some brexiters are retired or have plenty of money so they think they don't have to care if the economy goes down the pan because they don't have to get a job or try to make ends meet.

Reply 5

username402722

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The headline sums up Brexit succinctly. Made worse by the dysfunction of the Tories.

Reply 6

shawn_o1

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Original post by barnetlad

The headline sums up Brexit succinctly. Made worse by the dysfunction of the Tories.

Labour are also split over Brexit, why else would they not directly bring this up in PMQs

Reply 7

Maker

20

Like most important things, Britain does not have any plans and will muddle through brexit and after.

Reply 8

GenialGermanGent

OP

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Original post by shawn_o1

...but wants to rule Britain with an iron fist.

No. Where do you get that from?

Original post by shawn_o1

He comes from the European elite who sneers at those below them.

Just because I am clearly more intelligent, more educated, and more successful than you, you consider me an 'elite'? I sure do sneer at ignorant Brexiteers like you though who can't make a single point and desperately need to resort to making up lies about me. Pathetic.

Original post by shawn_o1

I bet even if the UK had remained, the majority of "experts" would still have predicted the same economic doom and gloom that they directly attribute to Brexit.

Before the referendum you were ahead of France and forecast to overtake Germany. Let that sink in. Wouldn't you lot have loved that? Now you'll just be poor, stuck in recession, the laughing stock of Europe.

Reply 9

RickHendricks

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Original post by shawn_o1

OP is not British but wants to rule Britain with an iron fist. He comes from the European elite who sneers at those below them. I bet even if the UK had remained, the majority of "experts" would still have predicted the same economic doom and gloom that they directly attribute to Brexit. Just for "thinking" about splitting from the EU. People generally don't react positively to blackmail unless they've been brought up to think that it's normal (a familiar concept with those who lived in the communist era)

i stopped bothering with this guy.

Doesnt even live in the UK but acts like he knows better than all, and shows all this hate on a studentforum based in the UK, which is ironic since a lot of students actually voted remain, and the TSR has like mostly under 18s who didnt even get to vote.

Reply 10

Saunders16

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Original post by shawn_o1

OP is not British but wants to rule Britain with an iron fist. He comes from the European elite who sneers at those below them. I bet even if the UK had remained, the majority of "experts" would still have predicted the same economic doom and gloom that they directly attribute to Brexit. Just for "thinking" about splitting from the EU. People generally don't react positively to blackmail unless they've been brought up to think that it's normal (a familiar concept with those who lived in the communist era)

Hear, hear! I think most Brexit voters were aware of the potential economic consequences of leaving; to say otherwise would be undermining their intelligence. There is a sense of pride that can only be described as British that guided the vote, with us being the first electorate to stand up against the centralisation of the EU. The two biggest issues were immigration, which people have been ignored on inside the EU, and parliamentary sovereignty, impossible to possess when trapped in the European Court of Justice. We may be worse off, but to think the costs cannot almost be outweighed by trade deals, economic policy and simply having an optimistic outlook is unfair. It really is a game of perceptions and trade will easily remain close to current levels if we sell a final deal well. It's also important to note that we are still predicted to grow, just by a lower amount. The people that are overly bothered about that are not the ones who supported Brexit and are presenting an idiot caricature of those who supported it. The OP is suffering from the same hubris and ignorance of normal people that caused this process in the first place, and it's hilarious.

Reply 11

username3765926

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Original post by GenialGermanGent

Ooooh, the big r-word has finally dropped! You guys looking forward already to more austerity, few -and poorly paying- jobs for graduates, and permanently lower living standards?

Brexit expected to lead the UK into recession within two years, investor survey says
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/brexit-expected-to-lead-the-uk-into-recession-within-two-years-investor-survey-says.html

Layoffs Arrive in Brexit Britain, and Auto Workers Are Up First
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-16/layoffs-arrive-in-brexit-britain-and-auto-workers-are-up-first

Britons spend less as Brexit fears bite
https://www.thenational.ae/business/britons-spend-less-as-brexit-fears-bite-1.703769

Pound to euro exchange rate: Sterling hits a new LOW thanks to Brexit uncertainty
https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/918144/pound-exchange-rate-euro

Brexit could see UK lose status as global business leader
https://www.itproportal.com/news/brexit-could-have-uk-lose-the-status-of-global-business-leader/

UK inflation sticks near five-year highs at 3%
https://www.ft.com/content/4ebcad02-10a0-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277

More investors looking to cut U.K. assets as Brexit uncertainty persists
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-investors-looking-to-cut-uk-assets-as-brexit-uncertainty-persists-2018-02-16

Eurozone economy storms ahead in sharp contrast to Brexit-hit UK
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/eurozone-economy-eu-brexit-uk-germany-growth-compare-british-industry-a8209886.html

Germany tells Theresa May 'time is running out' over Brexit talks
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/germany-tells-theresa-may-time-is-running-out-over-brexit-talks-828111.html

UK must boost productivity and focus on international competitiveness to weather Brexit, says IMF
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-brexit-imf-productivity-international-competition-trade-deals-international-money-fund-a8209711.html

British fruit farmer cutting jobs and expanding in China as Brexit uncertainty hits UK agriculture
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-fruit-farmer-china-expanding-business-brexit-uncertainty-cut-jobs-agriculture-cap-eu-a8208671.html

Majority of voters think Brexit will hit UK economy immediately, poll finds
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-voters-hit-economy-bmg-poll-trade-deal-single-market-customs-union-eu-a8207276.html

Theresa May's Brexit immigration plans are not 'feasible' and could turn into a 'real mess'
http://www.businessinsider.fr/uk/theresa-may-post-brexit-immigration-plan-not-feasible-home-affairs-committee-report-2018-2

EU wants power to raid financial firms in Britain after Brexit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/14/eu-wants-power-raid-financial-firms-britain-brexit/

EU may block Britain's Armed Forces from global satellite navigation system after Brexit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/17/eu-may-bar-britains-armed-forces-satellite-navigation-system/

Brexit means…more arms dealing to human rights abusers
https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/andrew-smith-sophia-turner/brexit-means-more-arms-dealing-to-human-rights-abusers

Japan thinks Brexit is an 'act of self-harm', says UK's former ambassador
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/15/japan-thinks-brexit-is-an-act-of-self-harm-says-uks-former-ambassador

Farming businesses 'could be wiped out after Brexit transition'
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/18/farming-businesses-could-be-wiped-out-after-brexit-transition

Dover could suffer '20-mile permanent traffic jam' after Brexit
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/14/dover-could-suffer-20-mile-permanent-traffic-jam-after-brexit

Opinion:

The trade delusion: why Brexit won’t be Britain's salvation
The notion that the UK will thrive outside the EU's customs union is an ideological fantasy.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/02/trade-delusion-why-brexit-won-t-be-britains-salvation

Boris Johnson’s big Brexit speech was high on rhetoric and short on answers
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/02/boris-johnson-s-big-brexit-speech-was-high-rhetoric-and-short-answers

Special report: Just to give you lot an idea what a monumental laughing stock Brexit Britain is in Germany, check out these pictures of our awesome carnival floats

German carnival MOCKS Brexit Britain - May is 'ripping crying UK from EU'
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/918264/Brexit-news-Karneval-Rose-Monday-parade-Germany-Theresa-May

TL;DR.

Reply 12

RickHendricks

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Original post by Unkilled

TL;DR.

op is still butthurt

Reply 13

Quady

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Original post by GenialGermanGent

Now you'll just be poor, stuck in recession, the laughing stock of Europe.

Like Norway and Switzerland.

Yeah laughing stocks, not like Romania, Italy and Greece...

lulz

Reply 14

GenialGermanGent

OP

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Original post by Quady

Like Norway and Switzerland

Do your homework before debating with the adults.

Four reasons a post-Brexit UK can’t copy Norway or Switzerland
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/10/three-reasons-a-post-brexit-uk-cant-copy-norway-or-switzerland/

Why the Swiss Model Wouldn't Work for the UK
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/brexit-britain-and-the-switzerland-and-norway-models-a-1096952.html

Why the Swiss model is a poor choice for Britain post-Brexit
http://www.cityam.com/235765/why-the-swiss-model-would-be-a-poor-choice-for-britain-post-brexit

Why the Norway model is a flawed blueprint for Brexit
https://theconversation.com/why-the-norway-model-is-a-flawed-blueprint-for-brexit-64404

Norway to Britain: Don’t leave, you’ll hate it
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-referendum-look-before-you-leap-norways-pm-tells-brexiteers/

Mind that even IF the EU gives you lot a Norway or Switzerland 'style' deal, it doesn't mean that you will reach close to the same levels of prosperity due to the vastly different circumstances (think Norway's oil and smart politicians...)

Original post by Quady

Yeah laughing stocks, not like Romania, Italy and Greece...

Which of them exited the EU? How many of them are propped up/were rescued by the EU? Exactly. Which of them was the fastest-growing nation in Europe before deciding that being an EU member was a bad thing, and are now the SLOWEST growing nation of all industrial nations? Exactly.
See how stupid your comment was? Just how many more times do you want me to humiliate you ignorant buffoon?

Reply 15

shawn_o1

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Original post by Quady

Like Norway and Switzerland.

Yeah laughing stocks, not like Romania, Italy and Greece...

lulz

It's funny that OP can't see that his own behaviour is causing anti-establishment sentiment.
And it's got nothing to do with intelligence either.

Reply 16

Quady

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Original post by GenialGermanGent

Do your homework before debating with the adults.

Four reasons a post-Brexit UK can’t copy Norway or Switzerland
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/10/three-reasons-a-post-brexit-uk-cant-copy-norway-or-switzerland/

Why the Swiss Model Wouldn't Work for the UK
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/brexit-britain-and-the-switzerland-and-norway-models-a-1096952.html

Why the Swiss model is a poor choice for Britain post-Brexit
http://www.cityam.com/235765/why-the-swiss-model-would-be-a-poor-choice-for-britain-post-brexit

Why the Norway model is a flawed blueprint for Brexit
https://theconversation.com/why-the-norway-model-is-a-flawed-blueprint-for-brexit-64404

Norway to Britain: Don’t leave, you’ll hate it
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-referendum-look-before-you-leap-norways-pm-tells-brexiteers/

Mind that even IF the EU gives you lot a Norway or Switzerland 'style' deal, it doesn't mean that you will reach close to the same levels of prosperity due to the vastly different circumstances (think Norway's oil and smart politicians...)

Which of them exited the EU? How many of them are propped up/were rescued by the EU? Exactly. Which of them was the fastest-growing nation in Europe before deciding that being an EU member was a bad thing, and are now the SLOWEST growing nation of all industrial nations? Exactly.
See how stupid your comment was? Just how many more times do you want me to humiliate you ignorant buffoon?

I dont think the UK is seeking Norweagen or Swiss deals is it?

Just pointing out being in Europe but out of the EU isn't so bad.

The Channel Islands do ok - could the UK have their deal?

Reply 17

GenialGermanGent

OP

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Original post by Quady

I dont think the UK is seeking Norweagen or Swiss deals is it?

It is, in its desperate attempt to avoid complete irrelevance on the world stage after Brexit. Too bad that won't work - and it's not even desirable, just read what Norway's Prime Minister said.

Original post by Quady

Just pointing out being in Europe but out of the EU isn't so bad.

And I am pointing out (well, I proved) that the UK's case is not even remotely comparable to either of those smaller (partly oil-rich) countries...

Original post by Quady

The Channel Islands do ok - could the UK have their deal?

... and definitely not to some microscopic tax havens. Are you out of your mind, comparing a developed, complex economy like the mainland's to Jersey? Or have you just given up and are fine with Britain turning into a full-on banana republic?

Furthermore, Jersey, Guernsey, and the Isle of Man are on the EU's 'grey list', likely to be named and shamed (and sanctioned) as tax havens - why would the EU grant the UK the same 'deal'?

Reply 18

Quady

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Original post by GenialGermanGent

It is, in its desperate attempt to avoid complete irrelevance on the world stage after Brexit. Too bad that won't work - and it's not even desirable, just read what Norway's Prime Minister said.

And I am pointing out (well, I proved) that the UK's case is not even remotely comparable to either of those smaller (partly oil-rich) countries...

... and definitely not to some microscopic tax havens. Are you out of your mind, comparing a developed, complex economy like the mainland's to Jersey? Or have you just given up and are fine with Britain turning into a full-on banana republic?

Furthermore, Jersey, Guernsey, and the Isle of Man are on the EU's 'grey list', likely to be named and shamed (and sanctioned) as tax havens - why would the EU grant the UK the same 'deal'?

Pretty sure the UK has more oil reserves than Switzerland....

Wow, so the UK is irrelavent yet also a complex developed economy? Contradictory much.

Grey list? Bet you can't link me to that list.