40h Night Shifts and University Full time

Hey, I know that doing this is highly unrecommended but I need some suggestions on how to cope with this.
I'm working 4 days a week for 10hours, shifts like 7pm to 5am and somedays I start university at 11am. I'm missing some classes, and sometimes I just feel too tired, but I'm still getting the minimum grades...
(I'm in this work for 3 months now)
Is anyone doing something like this, how did you manage to do it?

Not recommended at all. getting minimum scores is no good and you are essentially destroying your degree. The only way I can see is you sacrifice any social life and be well organised.

It is a poor strategy though and you are better off suspending your studies, working full time to save money and then returning. If money is an issue (am assuming you have no choice) then take an extra year until you can afford your studies.

Even if I wasn't working I wouldn't get good grades either...
I'm already sacrificing social life, but tips on being organised would be handy

I'm 18 and I am an international student (eu country) I'm working full time because I don't want to ask my parents money since they struggle a bit... Also, took me 5 months until someone accepted my job application and it was this full time or nothing and I had to pay 3 extra months of rent...
I don't want to do a break on my studies...

You need to cut those working hours in half.

Have a look at working migrants scheme for students. You can apply for a maintenance grant plus work. If you are working for a big supermarket, then there should be flexibility to cut hours. You also have experience.

Working migrant allows you to apply for maintenance from SFE as long as you work 24 hours+ and £,7,500 +.

What kind of work must I be doing? You must be working in the UK, and you could be working full time or part time. You can be working for an employer or self-employed. However, Student Finance England has a benchmark of a minimum annual income of £7,500 and working for at least 24 hours a week to qualify as a Migrant Worker.


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjJ7fCYwMDZAhVHJ1AKHXoVAd0QFggpMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.westminster.ac.uk%2Ffile%2F56331%2Fdownload&usg=AOvVaw2c6NekvllcmytW9SI497Hk

" Additionally, you must have been ordinarily resident in the UK or the EEA and/or Switzerland for three years before the first day of the first academic year of the course. Temporary absences outside of the UK/EEA may be ignored, and you can be ordinarily resident in more than one place at the same time, but Student Finance England will require evidence of this.

So if you first started living in England after 1 September of the year you started your course, you will not be able to qualify as a Migrant Worker for your current course even if you start working."
This was on the doc you sent me.

They are currently short on staff meaning that I cant cut hours. They hired me because they needed a full time position...

Not sure what your point is. Are you saying you didnt come to the UK before 1 Sept in the year you started your course?


Just apply for another job and if you get offered it then switch.

this doesn't sound like something you can do long-term, you will feel exhausted and your grades will suffer, they are important. I'd suggest finding another job with better working hours, you can try and get organized about this but I doubt it will work for long

Even if I wasn't working I wouldn't get good grades either...

Have you checked your SU's job listings for more student-friendly work?

I have to admit...I really do admire the people that work this hard and have the ambition to go to school to get an education.
However, this may seem like too much. Why is a shift 10 hours? Are you getting overtime because 8 hours is supposed to be the norm (in my country at least).
I work 7-8 hours a week (Sundays only) and even I can't handle it and feel like it's taking away time away from my studies.

I would really suggest you could cut those hours down or get another job. Search and you will find one that suits your schedule.


How??? I don't get it.

I've been trying to apply for another job (with low effort) but I'm just 18 and most of them pay the minimum of £5.7 hour and part-time with 5.7 instead of the 7.83 that I'm getting in this place is a big difference...

I really feel sorry for you but you need to somehow balance your work and studies. I myself work 24 hours every weekend, barely getting by but student loan money helps a bit.

I was with the same course with someone who is the exactly the same situation as you 1 year ago. He managed to cope for about 5 months but had to quit because he could not take it anymore. Were doing computer science degree.

He now works somewhere, full time with minimum wage salary.

I've been trying to apply for another job (with low effort) but I'm just 18 and most of them pay the minimum of £5.7 hour and part-time with 5.7 instead of the 7.83 that I'm getting in this place is a big difference...

You failed to address my initial question which was a response to your query re the migrants scheme.

Grades don't matter in the 1st year. In the 2nd year cut your hours in half so your grades aren't disadvantaged.

Sorry! About the document you sent me it says the following:

Do I need to be ‘ordinarily resident’ in England on the first day of the first academic year of the course?
Yes, in order to qualify as an EEA Migrant Worker you must be living in England on the 1st September of the first academic year of the course. (Which I did) Additionally, you must have been ordinarily resident in the UK or the EEA and/or Switzerland for three years before the first day of the first academic year of the course. (I needed to be living here for 3 years) Temporary absences outside of the UK/EEA may be ignored, and you can be ordinarily resident in more than one place at the same time, but Student Finance England will require evidence of this.