Tony Blair's own poll shows 66% want to leave the EU 'at whatever cost'

I know my stance over Brexit has changed. I was remain, but after giving big government some thought, I changed my mind soon after the refurendum. I wish I had changed my mind sooner, but what can you do?

Regardless of what I think, I believe that most people would like to leave in the name of democracy. This is how the British public has voted, after all - it would be terribly undemocratic to see the government overrule the vote of the people.

I too voted for Remain and am now for Leave.

One of the biggest eye openers for me was seeing how completely bat **** insane a lot of remainders became after the vote: often being as loopy and far more intolerant than even the maddest of ukippers

Most of the leave at whatever cost crowd are old, retired and have money and good pensions and property.

Its the younger people who need jobs that will suffer if companies move to another country or downsize or don't invest in the first place. Just look at the govt that crow every time a car company invests but never talk about when they sack workers or close a factory.

Actually, even people with money will suffer if the economy goes bad because their assets will be worth less and they will have less money.

Of course, who is going to side with a war criminal? Which speaking of I am still waiting for the day both George Bush and Tony Blair get tried for war crimes.

Well that's silly reasoning.

Mind you, no one of the remain side has done anything as bat sh*t crazy as labelling our judges 'enemies of the people'.

I said it was eye opening, not that it was my main factor. The main was I wanted an EU Superstate to impose my militantly atheist beliefs on everyone. The fact I thought that most leave voters were nuts and or stupid was the cherry on the cake for me (at the time- I’ve obviously gone on a journey since then) .



Well, a lot of them seem to suggest that it’s the people which are the enemy of the people. Or claiming with a straight face that brexit has nothing to do with the single market (and immigration)

That said I’m not a fan of the Mail (or the Express and The Sun) which are all sensationalist trash as is the Mirror.

This could actually turn out to be very good for the younger generations. Many of them do not possess large amounts of capital currently, and therefore are not as affected by the drop in the value of the pound, unlike those who have saved (and, as you have already said, those who have retired) their money already. New business ventures will be open to them, and it will be much easier for them to export their goods as the pound is worth less currently.

I don't think either side came out the EU referendum debate well at all. It was probably the worst debate this country has ever has.

I can't ever imagine anything being that vitriolic and hateful, on all sides, over any other issue.

On this we can agree. One thing that I haven’t changed my mind on is that referendums are stupid and shouldn’t happen. Despite changing my mind on the the issue, I still greatly respect Ken Clarke for his principle on this issue.



Wait until Rees Mogg faces off against Jeremy Corbyn after we leave the EU in 2 years. We ain’t seen nothing yet 😂

I'm also very against referendums for the reasons you gave. They bring out the worst in people. I actually think Corbyn and Rees Mogg will get on quite well. It's their supporters who are the concern.