The US will become the biggest Oil producer by 2023

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/08/vladimir-putin-1999-russian-apartment-house-bombings-was-putin-responsible/

"All available evidence points to Putin’s complicity in the 1999 apartment-building bombings in Russia. Those who have tried to investigate have been killed off, one by one."

What about FSB agents murdering political enemies

and oligarchs funding far right youth groups?

Saudi Arabia has shown signs of liberalising, moving away from oil, cutting off funding of wahhabism and general progress.

Russia is a fascist dictatorship.

Nah, nobody cares about liberalism or whatever regime. Common "entitled" folk might think the country is bad because it is not a liberalistic enough (like LGBT rights, minorities etc.) but on the world scale, it doesn't matter - ideology is a tool for masses. The government doesn't really care about minorities or refugees but it brings rating. Also immigrants usually uneducated and religion affected so they are useful for the government and business (low wage workers).

What problem with Russia is unpredictability. Nobody cares about Kosovo, nobody cares about African countries. But North Korea is a danger. The only reason - true reason - it still exists is South Korea - it is too close. Even with China USA could have done something. Russia is too big, has a lot of money and nuclear warheads. West wants to split it - in a controllable manner - and wrap Putin's gang in some Moscow region where it will be harmless. Because if it will be uncontrollable - Yugoslavia case will be a kindergarden.

Paul is right for leaving the conversation. You're absurd, your defence of Russia suggests that you are unaware of how much of a fascist authoritarian state it is or you do care and you're just defending it.

Either way, you're an idiot.

Dispute the article, then we can talk. If that's all you've got, then you're nothing more than a moron.

That's lumping them together...
Anyway aside from russia effectively telling the us to go whistle what makes it so undesirable in your view?

Oh, it all makes sense now: you're salty because I upset your boyfriend.

You two in that echo chamber... No wonder you both behave like SJWs.

What liberalisation means is that they no longer see much point in funding terrorist attacks and arent interested in spreading that dangerous ideology is much.

Russia is not unpredictable. Ever since the collapse of the soviet union its been very very clear they want to become a world superpower again.

They've interfered and undermined multiple western democracies, funding far right ideologies in hopes that sanctions that have crippled their economy such as the Magnitsky act gets dropped. Calling it unpredictable is pointless, only shows we're prepared to turn a blind eye to it.

Russia is not unpredictable. Ever since the collapse of the soviet union its been very very clear they want to become a world superpower again.

They've interfered and undermined multiple western democracies

funding far right ideologies

The US becoming a global oil producer is a definitely a good thing. Once Mueller finishes his investigation and the truth is revealed, I hope the West hits Russia with so many sanctions that it collapses back into the communist sh*tpile it once was.

It's written by David Satter. Read it, and dispute it, c*nt.

You're not worth my time.

FSB agents were caught planting another bomb, a senior official was caught speaking about the attack before it happened and everyone involved in the subsequent investigation was killed including a british secret service consultant and you still think this is a valid comparison. **** off you russian pile of ****.

Source, big boy.

America.

https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=f4f5cf0c-9104-4b3f-8ebe-84f3dc24c51b

This was a speech made to the senate. You dont make up stuff on the senate floor. That's a pretty reliable source, given it was not dismissed or publicly redacted.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/mar/12/chechnya.johnsweeney

I've already shown the article from David Setter.

Though, given you're stupid enough to think information from the russian state is more reliable than the US, I dont think theres much point in engaging in a conversation with you. Im simply doing this for other readers of the thread who wont be fooled by delusional idiots like you.

I never said that liberalising is in itself is a good thing. Saudi Arabia funded 9/11 and helped with trial runs prior to the attack, the WTC bombings is also suspected to be in part helped by them. What liberalisation means is that they no longer see much point in funding terrorist attacks and arent interested in spreading that dangerous ideology is much.

Russia is not unpredictable. Ever since the collapse of the soviet union its been very very clear they want to become a world superpower again. They've interfered and undermined multiple western democracies, funding far right ideologies in hopes that sanctions that have crippled their economy such as the Magnitsky act gets dropped. Calling it unpredictable is pointless, only shows we're prepared to turn a blind eye to it.

1] That act targets individuals not the government so i fail to see how it has 'crippled their economy'
2] Russia has more or less no trade worth a damn with the US any way
3] Global oil prices crashing crippled their economy, sanctions by all accounts have had little more than an irritating effect and have been positively beneficial for domestic industries.

I’m not arguing his point but if proper sanctions were placed they would crumble, that’s how the USSR was brought down

Potentially but that is deeply unlikely to be doable - The Europeans would likely simply tell the Americans to piss off in that instance. Why would they wish to lose tens if no hundreds of billions of euros in trade due to some irrelevant spat across the pond?
Equally i'm not certain we should draw too many parallels between the former USSR and modern Russia, whilst there are indeed certain similarities between the two they are now fairly different entities in this context.

Yes they are less significant now.

Their economy however hasn’t diversified much with way too much reliance on selling fossil fuels