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Original post by xxvvvxxc
Yeah, but getting to a position of getting that offer is harder, so technically it isn't easier.


how is it harder?
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Original post by Sanjith Hegde123
how is it harder?


Read my first post.
Reply 22
Original post by nexttime
Its also of note that Oxford interview each candidate multiple times over two days (normally no less than 4 interviews), whereas Cambridge normally does a single interview for each candidate I believe.


Depends on the college/course but usually it's 2 interviews at Cambridge :smile:. And some do 3 with one "general" and two subject interviews.

But yes a key difference is only one set of interviews at a Cambridge college, instead of interviews across multiple colleges as at Oxford. Although there is the slight chance of yet another Cambridge interview at a different college in the Winter Pool in January.
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Why? Because they care more about exam results that you got over a year ago from the point of applying?
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Original post by RedGiant
Why? Because they care more about exam results that you got over a year ago from the point of applying?


Wait what? Is this in reference to GCSE?
Original post by xxvvvxxc
Wait what? Is this in reference to GCSE?


yes, they do shortlist based on gcse's i believe
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Original post by Sanjith Hegde123
yes, they do shortlist based on gcse's i believe


Yes, I know that, I'm asking what the poster meant, as if they meant that I think it's harder because of the GCSEs, no, it's the applicant number in comparison to the spaces available, and the deselection of applicants pre interview. Also, so speaking, GCSEs aren't really a decider for much other than a part of the interview. And most applying already got 10 to 11 A* so the real decider is the BMAT and other factors.
Original post by xxvvvxxc
Wait what? Is this in reference to GCSE?


No, it's a reference to SATs taken in year 6...

Original post by xxvvvxxc
Yes, I know that, I'm asking what the poster meant, as if they meant that I think it's harder because of the GCSEs, no, it's the applicant number in comparison to the spaces available, and the deselection of applicants pre interview. Also, so speaking, GCSEs aren't really a decider for much other than a part of the interview. And most applying already got 10 to 11 A* so the real decider is the BMAT and other factors.


Not necessarily. If you only have 4 A*s at GCSE, and only perform average on an admissions test, I doubt you'll get an interview. Where as at Cambridge, you will get an interview if you have a "realistic chance of an offer", thus giving you that extra opportunity to shine. It is harder to get an interview at Oxford, and therefore "harder" to get an offer overall. Then it's the interview mainly, and the admissions test.
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Original post by RedGiant
No, it's a reference to SATs taken in year 6...


Well no, GCSE are not hard in terms of difficulty of the papers. I managed to get 11 A* in it this year and all I did was memorise the content VERY well, and that does not prove much really anyways in terms of the intelligence of a person nor their capability in a particular subject, so GCSE are not what makes it difficult, especially seeing the statistics and how, like I said most have atleast 10 a*, and more...
Reply 29
Original post by xxvvvxxc
I read some threads where people addressed how Oxford and Cambridge have a similar level of hardness to get into, but surely that's not the case! So speaking there are way more people per place at Oxford than at Cambridge and seeing that Oxford literally has 100 ish less seats, it is much harder aiming for Oxford, and also the deselection occurs before there, so ,many do not even get the chance to offer their skills in the interview!

What do you guys think? Oxford is harder to get into in comparison to Cambridge, correct?


Speaking as someone who's Uncle was the best at Maths in his year at Oxford, I can say that it's very difficult to get into Oxford, because they just generally want top in absolutely everything, they want the best students, of the best ability in the country. Cambridge University is very good though, and they are generally more famous in Maths/Sciences, but thats due to them doing more practical Maths/Science, whereas Oxford is more theoretical. Cambridge/Oxford are the elite. If you can get into one of them then that's good enough to be near the top of the country(without even coming top) , so go for whichever works for you,(I really want to go to Oxbridge, not sure which one).
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Original post by Zoqua
Speaking as someone who's Uncle was the best at Maths in his year at Oxford, I can say that it's very difficult to get into Oxford, because they just generally want top in absolutely everything, they want the best students, of the best ability in the country. Cambridge University is very good though, and they are generally more famous in Maths/Sciences, but thats due to them doing more practical Maths/Science, whereas Oxford is more theoretical. Cambridge/Oxford are the elite. If you can get into one of them then that's good enough to be near the top of the country(without even coming top) , so go for whichever works for you,(I really want to go to Oxbridge, not sure which one).


This is very true, Oxford are set to obtain the best of the students, and many in my year above, even though they had crazy talent in the sciences came out with a rejection, and I think with Oxford, you need to go in knowing that the interview is going to play a BIG role in your assessment afterwards, but Cambridge do have amazing talent too..
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Original post by xxvvvxxc
Well no, GCSE are not hard in terms of difficulty of the papers. I managed to get 11 A* in it this year and all I did was memorise the content VERY well, and that does not prove much really anyways in terms of the intelligence of a person nor their capability in a particular subject, so GCSE are not what makes it difficult, especially seeing the statistics and how, like I said most have atleast 10 a*, and more...


What are you on about? I'm not talking about the difficulty of GCSEs themselves (they're the easiest set of public exams anyone will take, I got all A*s myself). I'm talking about them being used in the decision of who to interview, and then who to give offers to. Just because you didn't get an A* in GCSE Spanish, when you're applying for Physics, doesn't mean you're less intelligent. And visa versa, just because you did, doesn't make you more intelligent. What's more is that Cambridge are more bothered about how you're performing at A Level (as that's the closest things to the stuff at degree level), and not so much for Oxford. Hence why they used to collect UMS scores and actively use them. But anyway I'm starting to think you're just trying to make this thread about you more than anything, as reassurance.
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neither are very hard to get into, don't flatter yourselves
oxford has a slightly lower entry requirement with only one a*, so naturally more people will apply, in comparison to the fewer and (debatable) smarter people who apply for cambridge
Original post by AzureCeleste
Yup, exactly why I applied to cambridge-realised the stats worked more in my favour plus much higher chance for interview so can showcase my talent.


Did you get an offer from Cambridge?
Original post by xxvvvxxc
I read some threads where people addressed how Oxford and Cambridge have a similar level of hardness to get into, but surely that's not the case! So speaking there are way more people per place at Oxford than at Cambridge and seeing that Oxford literally has 100 ish less seats, it is much harder aiming for Oxford, and also the deselection occurs before there, so ,many do not even get the chance to offer their skills in the interview!

What do you guys think? Oxford is harder to get into in comparison to Cambridge, correct?


You're right in saying that a smaller proportion of applicants receive an offer at Oxford compared to Cambridge, but you cannot take this statistic out of context. Keep in mind that Oxford generally has lower standard offers than Cambridge, which means that a lot of applicants will not apply to Cambridge because their predicted grades are not enough, or they just want a lower offer. In general more people apply to Oxford than Cambridge, though this difference is not enormous (Oxford 2016: >19000 https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/admissions-statistics?wssl=1 , Cambridge 2016: 16750 https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/apply/statistics).
It is true that Oxford interviews a smaller proportion of applicants (about 60% I believe) than Cambridge (about 80% I believe), but in theory this should not affect your chances of getting in, because if you are good enough to get in you will still be interviewed because you will be in the top 60% or whatever percent of applicants.
There are some people from my school who have offers from Oxford (and Cambridge) who in my opinion do not deserve them; there's this one girl who had a hangover at one of her interviews, wrote her personal statement on the deadline, had not read any of the books on her personal statement, and who's attendance is maybe around 50%, yet she's got an offer from Oxford.
I have an offer from Cambridge so I appreciate that there may be some bias in what I say. However, there are so many variables to take into account that I do not think it is fair to say that Oxford is harder to get into than Cambridge.
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Original post by RedGiant
What are you on about? I'm not talking about the difficulty of GCSEs themselves (they're the easiest set of public exams anyone will take, I got all A*s myself). I'm talking about them being used in the decision of who to interview, and then who to give offers to. Just because you didn't get an A* in GCSE Spanish, when you're applying for Physics, doesn't mean you're less intelligent. And visa versa, just because you did, doesn't make you more intelligent. What's more is that Cambridge are more bothered about how you're performing at A Level (as that's the closest things to the stuff at degree level), and not so much for Oxford. Hence why they used to collect UMS scores and actively use them. But anyway I'm starting to think you're just trying to make this thread about you more than anything, as reassurance.


I know what you mean, but what I am saying is that although GCSE may matter to a certain extent, people applying all basically have roughly the same GCSEs, and this is for Medicine specifically. Also, I am sure Cambridge look at GCSEs more now anyways in comparison to before as they also need a set of firm results from a student as AS and the whole UMS system is gone.

Also, I never said this was about the grades, it's about the type of procedure they use to select potential applicants, and the way they go about interviewing. As it is clear they want the better applicants, as shown by the national exams Medics in Oxford do.

And no, I literally went on a thread spree and saw how people were basically saying it's approx the same difficulty to get an offer when clearly it is not, and decided to make a thread on why I think what I do, and have had people also agree to it!
Reply 38
Original post by Zoqua
I can say that it's very difficult to get into Oxford, because they just generally want top in absolutely everything, they want the best students, of the best ability in the country.


Unlike Cambridge?

And where do most of the BMO team go to?
https://www.imo-register.org.uk/#stats
252 have gone to Cambridge
20 to Oxford
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Original post by mah1000000
Did you get an offer from Cambridge?


In the end no, my interview wasn't the best-but I'm actually happy I didn't get in because I've realised that other places would suit me better

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