Trans Women To Be Allowed On Labour’s All-Women Shortlists

They'd have a much easier time if they just got rid of shortlists in the first place, a bad idea in the first place.

Here’s a wacky idea. Let everybody man or woman onto the shortlist.

I wouldn't expect a liberal to understand.

Nope. That defeats the point of a shortlist.

Labour may break their shovel if they carry on digging a hole this big.

Quite fun watching the Stupid Left war amongst itself over which version of a stupid policy they should go with.

You know I'm a liberal so forgive me for being slow but not sure exactly what you mean there

I disagree, a shortlist is just a list of potential candidates. Letting both men and women onto it doesn’t defeat the point.

We need to use things like shortlists in a progressive political parties to get round the prejudices and lingering sexism of the past that amkes it harder for women to get involved in politics.

And we do that by allowing men who claim to be women to take up those women's places on those shortlists. This could be quite a good sitcom script, couldn't it?

Technically there is no law in place to stop women from applying for male dominated areas in society. There is legal equality. That's normally enough for liberals. But it ignores other factors. For example say you had a society that enslaved women. Then the rules of that soceity are change so women are no longer enslaved. Everything is now fair and equal right? WRONG. The result of generations fo women who received no education, could not hold property, generations of behaviour conditioned into women means they are still stubonly remaining at the bottom of society. In fact the power inbalance that is a result of past slavery is allowing new and creative ways for the powerful to exploit the techniqually equal women. Someone like a socialist is like we need to interfere more and find ways to organise these women so as to totally smash the opresion that still lives on.

That's an extreme example (Is it?) but shortlists are an example of that kind of thinking. Women have been (and still are) living in a patrachical society. It;s only in the last century that they have even been able to vote. We need to use things like shortlists in a progressive political parties to get round the prejudices and lingering sexism of the past that amkes it harder for women to get involved in politics so we need to ensure they is adequate female representation in politics. Then eventually, once sexism has been eradicated from society, we can do away with the shortlists since we don't need them anymore.

LGBT politics.

The result of generations fo women who received no education, could not hold property, generations of behaviour conditioned into women means they are still stubonly remaining at the bottom of society.

In fact the power inbalance that is a result of past slavery is allowing new and creative ways for the powerful to exploit the techniqually equal women. Someone like a socialist is like we need to interfere more and find ways to organise these women so as to totally smash the opresion that still lives on.

That's an extreme example (Is it?)

It;s only in the last century that they have even been able to vote.

We need to use things like shortlists in a progressive political parties to get round the prejudices and lingering sexism of the past that amkes it harder for women to get involved in politics so we need to ensure they is adequate female representation in politics. Then eventually, once sexism has been eradicated from society, we can do away with the shortlists since we don't need them anymore.