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Where's the line between okay and not okay porn?

So i had an interesting talk with my boyfriend the other day about fetishes and porn, what's illegal and what's okay.

And it raised some pretty interesting questions that I though would be cool to find other peoples opinion on so I'm interested to hear what people think,

Where's the line between okay porn and not okay porn?
Obviously the biggest type of 'bad porn' would be child porn which is just disgusting,
But then people have that 'school girl fetish' and I guess that's in a weird place between not okay but also accepted porn?

There's also 'teen' 'incest' 'forced' 'Daddy/little girl'- which I really don't know how that's okay?

My question is where is the line between acceptable porn fetishes and not acceptable porn fetishes?

If child porn is illegal how come incest porn is somewhat okay? Or is that illegal too?
But there will always be people interested in the fantasy of it so where does the line fall?

And with a lot of this risky porn how do you know that what your watching isn't real?
It's socially acceptable arguably to have a school girl fetish, and is a big thing in Japanese porn/anime culture and the like, but how do you know that person isn't a real school girl?

How do you know those videos advertising '18 years old' are actually 18 and not say 15 or even younger? Or that 'incest' fetished videos aren't real?
And if you watched those videos without realising it's real are you to blame for that? If it's classed as illegal? And where does the line between illegal porn and legal porn lie?
Is it okay to search for these types of tags like school girl porn or incest or hardcore stuff or not in the eyes of the law?

And what about bondage porn and The like? Where is the line between what's okay to watch legally and also socially and what isnt?

And on an even further note, what about the people who say it's better for Pedophiles to watch child porn rather then actually hurting children?
I actually don't think that's right, a child was still hurt to make those videos/photos.

What are some of your guys options on these things?

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Original post by Anonymous
So i had an interesting talk with my boyfriend the other day about fetishes and porn, what's illegal and what's okay.

And it raised some pretty interesting questions that I though would be cool to find other peoples opinion on so I'm interested to hear what people think,

Where's the line between okay porn and not okay porn?
Obviously the biggest type of 'bad porn' would be child porn which is just disgusting,
But then people have that 'school girl fetish' and I guess that's in a weird place between not okay but also accepted porn?

There's also 'teen' 'incest' 'forced' 'Daddy/little girl'- which I really don't know how that's okay?

My question is where is the line between acceptable porn fetishes and not acceptable porn fetishes?

If child porn is illegal how come incest porn is somewhat okay? Or is that illegal too?
But there will always be people interested in the fantasy of it so where does the line fall?

And with a lot of this risky porn how do you know that what your watching isn't real?
It's socially acceptable arguably to have a school girl fetish, and is a big thing in Japanese porn/anime culture and the like, but how do you know that person isn't a real school girl?

How do you know those videos advertising '18 years old' are actually 18 and not say 15 or even younger? Or that 'incest' fetished videos aren't real?
And if you watched those videos without realising it's real are you to blame for that? If it's classed as illegal? And where does the line between illegal porn and legal porn lie?
Is it okay to search for these types of tags like school girl porn or incest or hardcore stuff or not in the eyes of the law?

And what about bondage porn and The like? Where is the line between what's okay to watch legally and also socially and what isnt?

And on an even further note, what about the people who say it's better for Pedophiles to watch child porn rather then actually hurting children?
I actually don't think that's right, a child was still hurt to make those videos/photos.

What are some of your guys options on these things?


I don't think its okay to watch child porn or even make child porn, it should be illegal
Original post by tiarichards16
I don't think its okay to watch child porn or even make child porn, it should be illegal


It is illegal in the UK and many parts of the world
Original post by black tea
It is illegal in the UK and many parts of the world


That's good then. Its angers me at the fact that men create child porn, like omg they are just a child!!!
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Original post by tiarichards16
That's good then. Its angers me at the fact that men create child porn, like omg they are just a child!!!


Original post by black tea
It is illegal in the UK and many parts of the world


Yes child porn is particularly evil, I couldn't agree more and thankfully it's illegal,
I often wonder though about those videos that say they're 18 Years Old, how do you know really are they are and if it turns oh they aren't 18 could you be in trouble for viewing it?
Original post by Anonymous
Yes child porn is particularly evil, I couldn't agree more and thankfully it's illegal,
I often wonder though about those videos that say they're 18 Years Old, how do you know really are they are and if it turns oh they aren't 18 could you be in trouble for viewing it?


I'm unsure about that but I believe that you could be
Reply 6
Original post by tiarichards16
I'm unsure about that but I believe that you could be


It's certainly a scary thought, I would be horrified to find out a video I was viewing was of an underage person or against their wishes.
When it comes to adult porn, the treatment of the people involved is one of the reasons that most porn is crap. If you like the subjects, things from the 'queer porn' scene tends to be much better.

Worth reading: Good Porn: A Woman's Guide by Erika Lust and Ethical Porn for Dicks: A Man's Guide to Responsible Viewing Pleasure by David Ley.

Worth watching: Hot Girls Wanted - there's a stand-alone documentary and a series with the same title - on Netflix.
Original post by unprinted
When it comes to adult porn, the treatment of the people involved is one of the reasons that most porn is crap. If you like the subjects, things from the 'queer porn' scene tends to be much better.

Worth reading: Good Porn: A Woman's Guide by Erika Lust and Ethical Porn for Dicks: A Man's Guide to Responsible Viewing Pleasure by David Ley.

Worth watching: Hot Girls Wanted - there's a stand-alone documentary and a series with the same title - on Netflix.


Oh yes I've watched that documentry it was very interesting!
Reply 9
Most of the legal free porn is pretty vile in terms of the descriptions, disrespectfulness and likely circumstance in which it has been filmed. I do wonder why this predominates. I think there may be some more ethical stuff with well paid models or consenting couples who truly want to make porn. I've wondered if any of the pay sites are worth it. I tend to be more 'couple friendly' in my preference.
Original post by Zarek
Most of the legal free porn is pretty vile in terms of the descriptions, disrespectfulness and likely circumstance in which it has been filmed. I do wonder why this predominates. I think there may be some more ethical stuff with well paid models or consenting couples who truly want to make porn. I've wondered if any of the pay sites are worth it. I tend to be more 'couple friendly' in my preference.


Yes me too, degrading sex isn't a turn on for me, even though things like bondage do interest me, there's a fine line between that and some of the things they do.
I hate porn that's degrading, violent, hurtful and disrespectful (which is most porn sadly). Gaping and double anal are disgusting, hurtful and mutilating. Even the single anal is too rough and violent.
Reply 12
Lol, what? There is no any okay line for any porn.
Porn is morally evil and should also be made illegal.

Guys that watch porn think they need to imitate what they saw in the videos.
Porn producers target young women that have tight financial circumstances and exploit them.
Poor women.
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Legally only child porn (and obviously bestiality) is illegal because the participants are being abused. You can't create child porn without abusing a child so it has to be illegal as we can't have children being abused. Incest/forced etc are legal because you can fake it. The people saying 'dad' or whatever aren't actually related and likewise the girl crying and struggling has previously consented and is acting. It's unlikely you will actually watch something real by accident because who would risk the jail sentence to create something real when it can be adequately faked?

However morally... I'd say watching incest/forced/violent porn cannot be mentally healthy or good for a normal sex life. It's also not good for the actors/actresses involved who are often treated badly and have a really tough life.
Original post by doodle_333
Legally only child porn (and obviously bestiality) is illegal because the participants are being abused. You can't create child porn without abusing a child so it has to be illegal as we can't have children being abused. Incest/forced etc are legal because you can fake it. The people saying 'dad' or whatever aren't actually related and likewise the girl crying and struggling has previously consented and is acting. It's unlikely you will actually watch something real by accident because who would risk the jail sentence to create something real when it can be adequately faked?

However morally... I'd say watching incest/forced/violent porn cannot be mentally healthy or good for a normal sex life. It's also not good for the actors/actresses involved who are often treated badly and have a really tough life.



I don't know, I wouldn't be so quick to judge that some of the hardcore porn out there isn't actual real and not faked, I imagine there is stuff out there that's real maybe it's confined to the 'dark web' but I can imagine people do make it, some people are sexual excited by the idea of rape and it's not a far jump to say people might film an attack and upload it for others to see. :/
anything with full frontal nudity is too much for me thanks
Original post by doodle_333
Legally only child porn (and obviously bestiality) is illegal because the participants are being abused. You can't create child porn without abusing a child so it has to be illegal as we can't have children being abused. Incest/forced etc are legal because you can fake it. The people saying 'dad' or whatever aren't actually related and likewise the girl crying and struggling has previously consented and is acting. It's unlikely you will actually watch something real by accident because who would risk the jail sentence to create something real when it can be adequately faked?

However morally... I'd say watching incest/forced/violent porn cannot be mentally healthy or good for a normal sex life. It's also not good for the actors/actresses involved who are often treated badly and have a really tough life.



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But the problem is, with all the fake pretend rape scenes out there, an actual real rape could be filmed and the viewer wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The viewer may think it's all pretend when it actually could be real.

Original post by Anonymous
I don't know, I wouldn't be so quick to judge that some of the hardcore porn out there isn't actual real and not faked, I imagine there is stuff out there that's real maybe it's confined to the 'dark web' but I can imagine people do make it, some people are sexual excited by the idea of rape and it's not a far jump to say people might film an attack and upload it for others to see. :/


I'm sure there is some 'real' stuff around but you're probably unlikely to find it on 'normal' porn sites. The only issue might be around consent with revenge porn or videos of drunk girls.
Original post by flippycipher

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But the problem is, with all the fake pretend rape scenes out there, an actual real rape could be filmed and the viewer wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The viewer may think it's all pretend when it actually could be real.



I'm not saying I agree with rape porn. I absolutely don't. I think it's unlikely many rapists will be broadcasting their crimes on the internet... at least outside the dark web.
Original post by Irman.g
Guys that watch porn think they need to imitate what they saw in the videos.


If this were true, then every time people have penis in vagina or anus sex, the man would ejaculate outside his partner - it's what happens in virtually all porn involving a penis...

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