Student sues Anglia Ruskin over "Mickey Mouse" degree

Considering that there are far too many graduates out there, I dare say more than just a few have wasted their time. The problem is, without a grad job, you more often that not don't even get to compete for those jobs in the first place. It's a necessary but far from sufficient prerequisite. The government must change that.

I am afraid I disagree. The statement issued by the University is not an accurate summary of the Commissioner's findings.

This would get laughed out of a court room. Its like a fat person suing McDonalds.

I think that if this wins will just lead to people blaming other people for their failures when it is up to them to achieve what they want.

The timing on cases like these always seems very suspect - it would be one thing if she'd done it during or immediately after completing her course, but when it's some years after, it seems more as if she's just looking for something else to blame.

Education is what you 'do'. Not what you 'get'.

This is a really bad precedence to set, do you your research, make a decision, work your socks off, be accountable. If you don't think it's right for you transfer. This just fuels a blame-culture

with poor student prospects?

Where are you getting that from for Business courses?

Something has to give, we either praise both parties or blame both parties. Universities need to be more honest about their abilities. I mean how can a university state that they are a “top global university” and not even be in the Top 100, with poor student prospects?

You can't tell the knock on effect of a poor degree for employability until you've worked for a few years

If the quality of teaching is poor enough to have an inherent affect on your employability, or the sole reason for your lack thereof, then that should be apparent during the course, not just a few years after. If it's a partial factor then perhaps, but then, surely the other components are what make the difference in that situation anyway?

If the quality of teaching is poor enough to have an inherent affect on your employability, or the sole reason for your lack thereof, then that should be apparent during the course, not just a few years after. If it's a partial factor then perhaps, but then, surely the other components are what make the difference in that situation anyway?

I learned a new coding system at uni - which by all accounts now has become defunct. That didn't improve employability

Yeah, and what you've described in employment in spite of, not because of your degree

I completely agree - there is a big issue with the claims some universities make. This is a good example of when it goes wrong https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jun/08/advertising-watchdog-forces-reading-university-to-ditch-top-1-claim
Students need to realise though that employers don't really care all that much about the university, they care about initiative, skills, competency and fit. They want to map your skills to their vacancy so the job gets done.

I don't know much about the student's personal circumstances. What I do know is that a 1st isn't enough. Students really need to uplevel and increase their skills across the board through student activities/volunteering/ leading/ internships etc. It's what you do at university that gives you extra brownie points when it comes to applying for jobs.

I'm sharing that as someone who was asked to apply for a job at their uni, then didn't get it because my admin skills weren't on par with someone external.... if a university isn't giving their own grad a job something is pretty wrong. However, in the wider world I did fine and got an office management job (oh the irony) and from their had a pretty successful career in HR.

Unfortunately, studying at university and graduating isn't the key to getting a job anymore, that alone won't get you a foot through the door... or perhaps even an interview. Unless you're doing something vocational like medicine/vet met/ nursing etc. Ultimately, upskilling and taking advantage of all the opportunities will make your CV stand out.

I don't get her issue. Surely, you as a student, should do your research before applying? And how is it the university's problem if your degree doesn't get you anywhere?

I completely agree - there is a big issue with the claims some universities make. This is a good example of when it goes wrong https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jun/08/advertising-watchdog-forces-reading-university-to-ditch-top-1-claim
Students need to realise though that employers don't really care all that much about the university, they care about initiative, skills, competency and fit. They want to map your skills to their vacancy so the job gets done.

I don't know much about the student's personal circumstances. What I do know is that a 1st isn't enough. Students really need to uplevel and increase their skills across the board through student activities/volunteering/ leading/ internships etc. It's what you do at university that gives you extra brownie points when it comes to applying for jobs.

I'm sharing that as someone who was asked to apply for a job at their uni, then didn't get it because my admin skills weren't on par with someone external.... if a university isn't giving their own grad a job something is pretty wrong. However, in the wider world I did fine and got an office management job (oh the irony) and from their had a pretty successful career in HR.

Unfortunately, studying at university and graduating isn't the key to getting a job anymore, that alone won't get you a foot through the door... or perhaps even an interview. Unless you're doing something vocational like medicine/vet met/ nursing etc. Ultimately, upskilling and taking advantage of all the opportunities will make your CV stand out.