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Tillerson sacked as US Secretary of State

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The White House has a higher staff turnover than the local meat packing factory.

It's come only hours after Tillerson linked Russia to the Skripal poisoning.
I don't really understand why anyone would accept a job working for Trump any more. He clearly is very quick to sack people.
After it came out that he'd called Trump a moron I'm surprised he lasted this long, I guess all it took was acknowledging Putin's obvious involvement in an assassination attempt on another country's sovereign soil to tip Trump over the edge.
Another one bites the dust :lol:
Trump is following Putin's orders.

Putin is Новый бог отец

Spoiler

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Original post by Chief Wiggum
I don't really understand why anyone would accept a job working for Trump any more. He clearly is very quick to sack people.


He was starting to get quiet boisterous, though. Saying publicly how Trump should handle free trade. A fair dismissal not even ACAS could disagree with.
This is starting to get ridiculous now, to be honest.
Incredible news emerging from the other side of the Atlantic today as President Trump has confirmed the firing of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. This news comes merely a few months after Trump rejected news reports of Tillerson's imminent firing as "fake news" in December 2017:

Donald Trump on Twitter

The media has been speculating that I fired Rex Tillerson or that he would be leaving soon - FAKE NEWS! He’s not leaving


Fake news, eh?

The firing of Rex Tillerson:

It is reported that Trump fired Tillerson over their disagreements, including on diplomacy with North Korea (with Trump publicly rebuking Tillerson's ostensible naivity on Twitter, only to now agree to meet Kim Jong-un) and on Tillerson's support for the JCPOA which Trump vowed to "rip up" (despite the IAEA certifiying Iran's compliance on 9 separate occassions since the deal was signed).

Tillerson is said to have learned of his firing on Twitter, in keeping with the Trump administration's commitment to sophistication and organisation.

The promotion of Mike Pompeo:

Tillerson is to replaced by current CIA Director Mike Pompeo, a hardline war-hawk who supports the use of torture on suspects in CIA 'black sites', prefers military action to diplomacy in Iran (a better option than negotiating with Iran would be to use "2,000 sorties too destroy the Iranian nuclear capacity" ) , blamed a "radical environmental agenda" for promoting the concept of climate change, is totally bought by big lobbying groups (in his early political days he was heavily funded/supported by the lobbying group Americans for Prosperity funded by the billionaire Koch brothers, he has since returned that favour by supporting their positions on numerous issues), takes a hard-line stance against abortions, is against same-sex marriage and is a fully-cucked member of the NRA.

Unsurprisingly, corporate Democrats such as Chuck Schumer have reacted positively to the news, sensing an opportunity to adopt a more militant anti-Russian foreign policy:

Chuck Schumer on Twitter

If he’s confirmed, we hope that Mr. Pompeo will turn over a new leaf and will start toughening up our policies towards Russia and Putin.


Pompeo's close links with the hardline neo-con FDD, politicisation of intelligence whilst at the CIA and explicit preference for military-attack-induced regime change over diplomacy in North Korea and Iran spell disaster for the multilateral JCPOA, Trump's oft-repeated concern with the US's invasions in the Middle East, and Trump's pursuit of diplomacy with North Korea.

Who is Gina Haspel?

It gets better. Trump has nominated Gina Haspel to become the new Director of the CIA.

Gina Haspel is currently Deputy Director of the CIA, and is best known for running an extra-judicial "black site" in Thailand in 2002. A Senate Intelligence Committee report found that individuals detained at that black site were regularly tortured, with one detainee waterboarded 83 times in a month, had his head slammed against a wall, and lost an eye. But it was worth it, right? Nope - the individual in question (Abu Zubaydah) was ultimately deemed not to be in possession of any useful information. D'oh.

Gina Haspel did not stop there, however, and was later accused by the head of the CIA's Counterterrorism Center of ordering the destruction of dozens of video recordings from the black site in Thailand that she ran.

Her brutal crimes against humanity have not gone unnoticed in Europe: in June 2017, the European Centre for Constitutional and Human Rights callde on the German Public Prosecutor to issue an arrest warrant against Haspel on the grounds of torture of Abu Zubaydah, meaning she could potentially - legally - be arrested at any moment she enters European soil.

Conclusions:

All in all, just another day in the Presidency of Donald Trump.
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I can see why, given his previous comments, you don't exactly want Tillerson disagreeing with you when going into negotiations with NK. Unfortunately the new guy looks like a hawk and the new CIA head certainly isn't any better
I thought Rex Tillerson was ok. Idk why Trump sacked him.
Original post by uberteknik
Trump is following Putin's orders.

Putin is Новый бог отец

Spoiler



Naturally everything Trump does will be linked to his supposed 'overloads' in Russia, but his one makes no sense even for the most senile anti-Russians. Tillerson was originally condemned as being too closely linked to Russia due to his links in the energy sector, and Mike Pompeo is known for taking a very hardline anti-Russian stance, so to implicate Russia in this decision makes no sense.
Original post by Edgemaster
I can see why, given his previous comments, you don't exactly want Tillerson disagreeing with you when going into negotiations with NK. Unfortunately the new guy looks like a hawk and the new CIA head certainly isn't any better


The irony is that Trump repeatedly undermined Tiillerson's attempts at finding a diplomatic solution for NK last year.

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/10/1/16392576/tillerson-avoid-war-with-north-korea-trump-diplomacy
Publicly rebuked him on Twitter only to now renege on that and attempt diplomacy himself, no less!
Original post by Palmyra
Publicly rebuked him on Twitter only to now renege on that and attempt diplomacy himself, no less!


And somehow his supporters hail him as a genius either way. Ruin diplomatic efforts by your top foreign ambassador? He's tough and no-nonsense who'll never engage with these evil men, just what the country needs! Accepts opportunity for diplomacy after a year of incessant antagonising? He's a superb statesman uniquely capable of solving these terrible rifts, just what the country needs!
It seems Trump's 4D chess is still going strong then
Original post by Edgemaster
It seems Trump's 4D chess is still going strong then


Trump and other people's ideas:

Original post by Palmyra
Incredible news emerging from the other side of the Atlantic today as President Trump has confirmed the firing of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. This news comes merely a few months after Trump rejected news reports of Tillerson's imminent firing as "fake news" in December 2017:



Fake news, eh?

The firing of Rex Tillerson:

It is reported that Trump fired Tillerson over their disagreements, including on diplomacy with North Korea (with Trump publicly rebuking Tillerson's ostensible naivity on Twitter, only to now agree to meet Kim Jong-un) and on Tillerson's support for the JCPOA which Trump vowed to "rip up" (despite the IAEA certifiying Iran's compliance on 9 separate occassions since the deal was signed).

Tillerson is said to have learned of his firing on Twitter, in keeping with the Trump administration's commitment to sophistication and organisation.

The promotion of Mike Pompeo:

Tillerson is to replaced by current CIA Director Mike Pompeo, a hardline war-hawk who supports the use of torture on suspects in CIA 'black sites', prefers military action to diplomacy in Iran (a better option than negotiating with Iran would be to use "2,000 sorties too destroy the Iranian nuclear capacity" ) , blamed a "radical environmental agenda" for promoting the concept of climate change, is totally bought by big lobbying groups (in his early political days he was heavily funded/supported by the lobbying group Americans for Prosperity funded by the billionaire Koch brothers, he has since returned that favour by supporting their positions on numerous issues), takes a hard-line stance against abortions, is against same-sex marriage and is a fully-cucked member of the NRA.

Unsurprisingly, corporate Democrats such as Chuck Schumer have reacted positively to the news, sensing an opportunity to adopt a more militant anti-Russian foreign policy:



Pompeo's close links with the hardline neo-con FDD, politicisation of intelligence whilst at the CIA and explicit preference for military-attack-induced regime change over diplomacy in North Korea and Iran spell disaster for the multilateral JCPOA, Trump's oft-repeated concern with the US's invasions in the Middle East, and Trump's pursuit of diplomacy with North Korea.

Who is Gina Haspel?

It gets better. Trump has nominated Gina Haspel to become the new Director of the CIA.

Gina Haspel is currently Deputy Director of the CIA, and is best known for running an extra-judicial "black site" in Thailand in 2002. A Senate Intelligence Committee report found that individuals detained at that black site were regularly tortured, with one detainee waterboarded 83 times in a month, had his head slammed against a wall, and lost an eye. But it was worth it, right? Nope - the individual in question (Abu Zubaydah) was ultimately deemed not to be in possession of any useful information. D'oh.

Gina Haspel did not stop there, however, and was later accused by the head of the CIA's Counterterrorism Center of ordering the destruction of dozens of video recordings from the black site in Thailand that she ran.

Her brutal crimes against humanity have not gone unnoticed in Europe: in June 2017, the European Centre for Constitutional and Human Rights callde on the German Public Prosecutor to issue an arrest warrant against Haspel on the grounds of torture of Abu Zubaydah, meaning she could potentially - legally - be arrested at any moment she enters European soil.

Conclusions:

All in all, just another day in the Presidency of Donald Trump.

It is just as useful to know Mr. Zubaydah possessed no useful information.

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