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erratic sleeping patterns - middle of the night insomnia?

Over the last few months now I've been experiencing on going night time symptoms where I'll wake up anywhere from 130am - 530am sometimes with this slight feeling that I needed to pee. However I don't always end up actually peeing. The times I have been to pee during these early mornings I can void around 400/500ml so not an excessive amount. Around 6am I can fall asleep again for another couple of hours. Sometimes though I won't go at all until the morning around 8am before work and other nights I have managed a decent sleep of around 6-7 hours. Some nights I'll wake up momentarily only to fall asleep but it's when I wake up around 330-5am and I'm wide awake as if I've slept 8 hours that bothers me. I've heard of something called middle of the night insomnia, is that anxiety related though?

I don't have any other symptoms apart from this slight need to pee (and as I said I don't end up peeing 50% of the time) but no nausea, I don't feel thirsty, never feel tired, or have any pain anywhere etc.

During the day time I've had mostly normal urination patterns/frequency.
These night time issues though are still bothering me a bit.
Also I had my prostate/PSA test and that's all normal, urine culture/test came back normal too. Personal blood sugar monitoring was normal too and as far as I know I'm not diabetic.

So it's these choppy sleeping patterns that are bothering me now more than anything, the fact that I'll be wide awake at these odd times after just a few hours sleep.
Hi I just want to let you know you're not alone. Drinking a glass of water always seems to help. Hope you're feeling okay. Sometimes watching a show can help take your mind off things and then makes it easier to sleep somehow. Also i am definetely not qualified to answer and sorry if this is really bad advice .
I thought I'd update this thread.
So since I last posted, from around the end of March my sleep improved. I was sleeping through more nights than not and this waking up in the middle of the night seemed to end. I didn't really change my diet or anything, if anything I have and am still trying to decrease my overall sugar intake. So that's almost two months of much better sleep patterns, at least they were less erratic.

But now for the past 4/5 nights it's back! On Monday I woke up at 2am, the next night again at 230am, last night at 215am and so on after just an hour or two of sleep. And it's that wide awake feeling where I cannot get back to sleep. Eventually I do get back to sleep around 5am and manage to sleep for a few hours so thankfully I'm not too sleep deprived and still feel largely well rested.

Anyway this is frustrating. I do have alot of worries and frustrations at the moment but like I said before I've had these for many years. Also although I do have a fairly large tea/coffee intake every day, I haven't changed this intake so it can't be my diet. No other symptoms really. Urination patterns more or less normal, no tiredness, hunger, thirst etc.

So why am I sleeping well for weeks and then suddenly not sleeping well again with the middle of the night insomnia returning?
Original post by shorttermnomad
I thought I'd update this thread.
So since I last posted, from around the end of March my sleep improved. I was sleeping through more nights than not and this waking up in the middle of the night seemed to end. I didn't really change my diet or anything, if anything I have and am still trying to decrease my overall sugar intake. So that's almost two months of much better sleep patterns, at least they were less erratic.

But now for the past 4/5 nights it's back! On Monday I woke up at 2am, the next night again at 230am, last night at 215am and so on after just an hour or two of sleep. And it's that wide awake feeling where I cannot get back to sleep. Eventually I do get back to sleep around 5am and manage to sleep for a few hours so thankfully I'm not too sleep deprived and still feel largely well rested.

Anyway this is frustrating. I do have alot of worries and frustrations at the moment but like I said before I've had these for many years. Also although I do have a fairly large tea/coffee intake every day, I haven't changed this intake so it can't be my diet. No other symptoms really. Urination patterns more or less normal, no tiredness, hunger, thirst etc.

So why am I sleeping well for weeks and then suddenly not sleeping well again with the middle of the night insomnia returning?


Stress can certainly do it. I get this sort of insomnia when I'm stressed-get to sleep, wake up often dead around the same time at 2-3am, don't get back to sleep until 6 or 7. The worst I had it was when I was doing my undergrad degree dissertation and I would literally only get an hour or two before waking up again and not being able to get back to sleep until 6am, so I'd get like 3-4 hours in total, and I'm the sort of person that needs 8-9 solid hours, so it killed me. Sometimes it's only when I get insomnia that I realise I'm taking on too much, and I now take it as a cue that I need to have a break or cut down on my workload.

I'd take a look at what obligations you currently have or things you're worrying about, see if you can take some time off/cut some things out to give yourself some time to chill out/relax if you can.

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