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Are young girls too sexualised and everything?

I see girls in year eight and seven (11-13 year olds) who will wear short tight shorts and stick their but out in snapchat and Instagram selfies. They also wear so much makeup.They will wear crop tops and pull their vests/too down sooo low and lean forward on pictures so you can see their boobs. They get so many boyfriends and attention on social media and school. Even in general, most girls are like that/want to be. Is it because society over sexualising girls and everything nowadays? You can’t escape it because it’s everywhere, on TV, ads and movies. People make money out of it but it’s causing kids who aren’t even grown to act so sexual. It’s just so wrong. :/ Boys also only date people based on their looks and for sex, it’s sad because isn’t it meant to be about the actual person and not sex. It’s just upsetting.

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Reply 1
Boys that age were doing the same thing in my day. Does anyone remember all those 12 year old skinny "six packs" on MySpace?
There are so many factors. One of them is Porn and people’s fetish for little girls having sex with older men and are wearing mini skirts. They’re making little girls look like fully grown women and that’s disgusting. Makeup is nothing tbh. But it’s not the kids that are growing up too fast, it us and we’re encouraging it.
Reply 3
it's because we teach young girls from the time they are born that looks take priority, that being 'pretty' and 'beautiful' give them worth. unlike boys where it's about 'doing things'. then girls get bombarded with beauty ads and fashion ads with half-naked women and they think that's what a woman looks like; if they can emulate her then they will be adored too. but this isn't new; the 'beauty' part has been going on since the beginning of time, when a woman's job was solely to find a husband.

if you want to talk about being overly sexualised tho, i think boys and porn are the bigger issue. porn is way different than beauty ads and they start doing it at age nine, so....
Original post by Joleee
it's because we teach young girls from the time they are born that looks take priority, that being 'pretty' and 'beautiful' give them worth. unlike boys where it's about 'doing things'. then girls get bombarded with beauty ads and fashion ads with half-naked women and they think that's what a woman looks like; if they can emulate her then they will be adored too. but this isn't new; the 'beauty' part has been going on since the beginning of time, when a woman's job was solely to find a husband.

if you want to talk about being overly sexualised tho, i think boys and porn are the bigger issue. porn is way different than beauty ads and they start doing it at age nine, so....


Good looking people do better in life, whether male or female. To suggest that girls have beauty standards to live up to and boys don’t is just ignorant.
Reply 5
Original post by Joleee
it's because we teach young girls from the time they are born that looks take priority, that being 'pretty' and 'beautiful' give them worth. unlike boys where it's about 'doing things'. then girls get bombarded with beauty ads and fashion ads with half-naked women and they think that's what a woman looks like; if they can emulate her then they will be adored too. but this isn't new; the 'beauty' part has been going on since the beginning of time, when a woman's job was solely to find a husband.

if you want to talk about being overly sexualised tho, i think boys and porn are the bigger issue. porn is way different than beauty ads and they start doing it at age nine, so....


You obviously have never seen the 100s of ads where every guy is swell and lean with a nice six pack. Guys have the same thing but have no makeup to hide inperfections. This isn't the fault of 'boys'. It's society as a whole and the internet.
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Original post by Rxhima
I see girls in year eight and seven (11-13 year olds) who will wear short tight shorts and stick their but out in snapchat and Instagram selfies. They also wear so much makeup.They will wear crop tops and pull their vests/too down sooo low and lean forward on pictures so you can see their boobs. They get so many boyfriends and attention on social media and school. Even in general, most girls are like that/want to be. Is it because society over sexualising girls and everything nowadays? You can’t escape it because it’s everywhere, on TV, ads and movies. People make money out of it but it’s causing kids who aren’t even grown to act so sexual. It’s just so wrong. :/ Boys also only date people based on their looks and for sex, it’s sad because isn’t it meant to be about the actual person and not sex. It’s just upsetting.


As a boy, disagree with the last part of your paragraph - I only want a relationship really for the actual person and not their looks yet there’s barely anyone that thinks a similar way, which creates an even smaller pool of people who you could potentially have a good relationship with (and from being rejected twice it knocks your confidence a lot)
Original post by Joleee


if you want to talk about being overly sexualised tho, i think boys and porn are the bigger issue. porn is way different than beauty ads and they start doing it at age nine, so....


There you go. Something you and Jordan B Peterson agree on.
👍🙂
From my experience, that age is one of those ages where you think you're grown up but you're not aware of how young you look/are. When I was 13 I thought I was basically an adult LMAO. But then again I never did things like that. Just let them be, they aren't harming anyone or themselves. They'll grow up and realise how stupid they were.
Reply 9
Original post by Underscore__
Good looking people do better in life, whether male or female. To suggest that girls have beauty standards to live up to and boys don’t is just ignorant.


did i say that? nope.
Reply 10
Original post by Jono*
You obviously have never seen the 100s of ads where every guy is swell and lean with a nice six pack. Guys have the same thing but have no makeup to hide inperfections. This isn't the fault of 'boys'. It's society as a whole and the internet.


i didn't say there wasn't beauty standards for men. apparently no one knows how to read around here.
Reply 11
Original post by Just my opinion
There you go. Something you and Jordan B Peterson agree on.
👍🙂


indeed, me and JP agree on a lot of issues; you'd be surprised. we just don't agree on the solutions, but c'est la vie.
Original post by Joleee
it's because we teach young girls from the time they are born that looks take priority, that being 'pretty' and 'beautiful' give them worth. unlike boys where it's about 'doing things'. then girls get bombarded with beauty ads and fashion ads with half-naked women and they think that's what a woman looks like; if they can emulate her then they will be adored too. but this isn't new; the 'beauty' part has been going on since the beginning of time, when a woman's job was solely to find a husband.

if you want to talk about being overly sexualised tho, i think boys and porn are the bigger issue. porn is way different than beauty ads and they start doing it at age nine, so....


Porn is a big issue, but not the biggest. It's a symptom, rather than a cause.

Look at Riverdale - A story of high school sex, bondage, violence and beauty. Or Teen Wolf. Or Twilight. Or 90% of the Young Adult best selling fiction out there right now.

We sexualize youth in print, in ad, on TV, and then wonder why they think of themselves as sexual beings. It's hypocritical and stupid. It's societal.

Yes, boys contribute to it - But that's due in large part to the media, which encourage -everyone- to do that. Societal expectations with regards to sex are terrible, and they are pushed both consciously and subconsciously. And it's terrible.
Reply 13
Original post by ThatOldGuy
Porn is a big issue, but not the biggest. It's a symptom, rather than a cause.

Look at Riverdale - A story of high school sex, bondage, violence and beauty. Or Teen Wolf. Or Twilight. Or 90% of the Young Adult best selling fiction out there right now.

We sexualize youth in print, in ad, on TV, and then wonder why they think of themselves as sexual beings. It's hypocritical and stupid. It's societal.

Yes, boys contribute to it - But that's due in large part to the media, which encourage -everyone- to do that. Societal expectations with regards to sex are terrible, and they are pushed both consciously and subconsciously. And it's terrible.


advertising is straight from the devil, i'm not joking. and i blame a lot of it on women btw, because they run a large part of the industry (but then the question is, hate the player or hate the game??).

advertisers want us to be unhappy and to feel like crap about ourselves, so we'll buy their products to complete our lives. that's why they use such unattainable, beautiful models to make you feel 'less than', like you're missing something in your life. but it's not enough to be beautiful; you must be 'sexy' and at any age, because if you're not 'sexy' than no one will want to have sex with you and you'll be alone for the rest of your life. i guess the 'sexy' bit feeds on our loneliness. and they start as young as possible for a variety of reasons, but one because young kids are vulnerable and have nothing else to do but shop and spend their parents' money. i could go on and on for days... (oh and no doubt i buy into it, i'm no hypocrite).

but i don't know if porn is a symptom like you say. i feel it's related but a separate issue, because it's not about beauty standards -- there are tons of ugly people in porn, no? and porn has different effects than beauty standards.
Original post by Joleee
did i say that? nope.


Your said that women are judged solely on looks and men on actions. You then went on to talk about how women are bombarded with beauty standards, as though men aren’t.
Reply 15
Original post by Underscore__
Your said that women are judged solely on looks and men on actions. You then went on to talk about how women are bombarded with beauty standards, as though men aren’t.


why are you looking for an argument i did not make? maybe try reading the OP's comment, then go to mine without putting words in my mouth.
Are young girls too sexualised and everything?


Yes.
Original post by Rxhima
I see girls in year eight and seven (11-13 year olds) who will wear short tight shorts and stick their but out in snapchat and Instagram selfies. They also wear so much makeup.They will wear crop tops and pull their vests/too down sooo low and lean forward on pictures so you can see their boobs. They get so many boyfriends and attention on social media and school. Even in general, most girls are like that/want to be. Is it because society over sexualising girls and everything nowadays? You can’t escape it because it’s everywhere, on TV, ads and movies. People make money out of it but it’s causing kids who aren’t even grown to act so sexual. It’s just so wrong. :/ Boys also only date people based on their looks and for sex, it’s sad because isn’t it meant to be about the actual person and not sex. It’s just upsetting.


The issue is, you’ve answered your own question.

If you’re looking at an 11 year old wearing minimal clothes and sexualising it - You are part of the reason it’s being sexualised.
Original post by Joleee
why are you looking for an argument i did not make? maybe try reading the OP's comment, then go to mine without putting words in my mouth.


I’m not putting words in your mouth, it was you who said:

Original post by Joleee
it's because we teach young girls from the time they are born that looks take priority, that being 'pretty' and 'beautiful' give them worth. unlike boys where it's about 'doing things'


I doesn’t see what that could mean other than ‘women are judged on beauty and men on actions’

You then went on to talk about how advertising rams the idea of beauty in girls’ faces when the more accurate way of saying it would be that all people are constantly shown images of beauty to aspire to.
You’re right, tbh a lot of young girls dress way more revealing than most adults - so it can almost be viewed as a sign of immaturity/childishness.

As far as relationships being about looks and having sex you’re so right in this country in particular we have a problem with it being all about having sex. It’s a shame because it encourages shame, lack of self respect and respect for other people.

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