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Could anyone help me come up with some points for a presentation about man vs evil?

and utopias
Original post by YukioLukio
and utopias


I see you haven’t had any replies. Perhaps you could give more information on the task in hand? People would be more willing and able to help you then.
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Original post by Rachmaninov
I see you haven’t had any replies. Perhaps you could give more information on the task in hand? People would be more willing and able to help you then.

I just need some points to be honest its for my speaking and listening exam i've got a bunch of stuff jumbled out in my head but I can't seem to make them come out properly something among the lines of how men overcome evil. If evil is really even evil or its just something that we makeup. How some people just get almost caught in a lie - lying to yourself to believe something and giving in to the lies of others and you yourself lying to others then just being lost as a person a man trying to look to the bright side in order to acheive your so called perfect world or whatever you want to achieve but then realising how vicious and brutal the world is for trapping you then after that feeling like you lost something then after that how a mans emotions changes after they've realised almost getting lost in their feelings and even themselves.Whilst being lost you are then faced with many paths on how to deal with your emotions but you can't seem to get out of that bubble but you try anyways to get through the sadness. Evil could be anything if you put it into context lust maybe hate ... leaving happiness (utopia) to face the real world accepting emotions which are known as negative like depression. How we react after we lose a person that we love the feeling of waiting and all that jazz. Ive kinda researched utopia in religions (mainly like heaven in abrahamic religions) but also like hellenism since the word utopia comes from like mid 16th century greece so might as well search about the religions they believed in. Also not just that but books like sir thomas more's 'utopia' and his views for example with religion it would probably be tolerance of others and other religions but in for example Ursula le guin's the ones who walked away from omelas where it says "religion yes but clergy no" where it suggests that religion itself isn't what causes conflict but people controlling the religion.or that they are so into the religion that they don't need intermediary however when i say requirements for omelas there is a large requirement for omelas to work which is quite dark but i wont spoil but for things like christianity its to believe in jesus christ and stuff like that and be christian for islam its be a muslim and follow the rules etc etc if you get what im saying (you can probs tell I watch a lot of BTS mv theory videos and read about it alot because i wouldn't be able to come up with this alone) concepts like hedonism. Reaching the peak of success but realising happiness isnt found. Is a utopia even possible?

Honestly never done a presentation before apart from a couple of IT lessons where its like present your work and you use a powerpoint and pretty much read off of the powerpoint. The teacher told us we aren't allowed to use powerpoints and we just have to speak and i havent even started creating something and they say the exam is gonna be on the 10th of september on the first week i get back to school in year 10 . people have told me its really easy but im not really good at presenting and speaking out loud honestly my hands shake just speaking in french to my french teacher when its not even exam conditions . they gave us free choice on what to do our presentation about but said higher marks would be given to presenting on things like like capitalism and socialism , psychology, music influence on youths, knife crime, art, rennaisance blah blah all them intelligent topics and we were told you cant present on things like movies and comics even though some of us can give perfect presentations on every single spiderman ever and marvel.

Ive looked through a couple of things and thought maybe this would be my basic presentation structure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0FDjFBj8o i dont know. No idea how to put everything ive just said into basic points to elaborate on when im speaking. I don't want to make my audience bored. Our presentation has to be 10 minutes long which means im just going to be there for a whoooooollleeeeeee 10 minutes talking about something i have no idea how to prepare for. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET APART FROM RESEARCH FOR A WHOLE WEEK BUT I DIDN'T GET MUCH and i have a really bad memory so i can't remember well unless i prepare for like a whole month even then it wont be good. because i'll be like um um um trying to recall things trust im like an old lady and the doctors gave me fish oil SHOOT YEAH I NEED TO TAKE MY OMEGA 3 PILLS i forgot.


So yeah if that explained everything
Reply 3
Anyone out there ???? Really urgent
Original post by YukioLukio
Anyone out there???? Really urgent


Hello. Apologies for the late reply.

It’s good that you are looking around on the internet finding ideas. I think what you need to do with them is write them all down, and try to group them together, so that your presentation can be organised.

Am I right in thinking the title of your presentation is simply ‘Man vs. Evil’? Off the top of my head, you may find it worth considering the following:

The definition of evil - in general, it denotes profound immorality. The religious perspective goes a little further, regarding evil as a supernatural force causing human suffering, and is the opposite of ‘good’. It may be useful to compare these slightly nuanced interpretations of what evil really is, as different points of view may offer different solutions.

Does evil really exist? Is it just a figment of the collective human imagination? If humanity were to be wiped out now, would the concept of evil perish with us? Or is it something that also manifests in the lives of other animals, and are they able to conceptualise it in the same way, or perhaps they perceive events detrimental to themselves as a condition of nature?

The subjectivity of evil: different societies, political ideologies and religions will have different ideas of what constitutes immorality, and therefore of what constitutes evil.

The benefit of the species vs the benefit of the individual: for instance, the immense suffering caused to millions of Russians under the yoke of the Soviet Union was justified as a means to an end - the socialist utopia. They therefore would argue that the individual suffering was necessary for the greater good of mankind, and is therefore not at all evil.

Consider the nihilistic perspective: nihilists believe that there is no objective purpose or value of life, and that ideas of morality are a human invention - that is, there is nothing inherent or natural about the idea of morality. If the same applies to immorality, then there is no inherent evil, i.e. it does not truly exist.

Consider the different solutions that abrahamic religions offer to the problem of evil: although they are monotheistic, they are also dualist, meaning they believe in two opposing supernatural forces - good and evil. In order to overcome the latter, the individual must choose the former in accordance with the ways of his/her respective religion. My knowledge on abrahamic faiths is quite superficial, so I’ll say no more on this, but you might want to research them individually in order the compare their respective approaches to evil - perhaps to evaluate how they are similar or different from one another.

Consider the Buddhist approach: again, my knowledge is superficial, but I understand that in order to overcome suffering and evil, instead of changing the actual circumstances surrounding it, or praying to a God, Buddhists believe that we must change our mindset, so that it can no longer cause us pain. Achieving this mental state is called ‘enlightenment’. Perhaps you could link this to the nihilistic approach, as it appears to tacitly admit that the concept of evil is a disease of the mind? As a side note, Buddhism isn’t truly atheist, because it doesn’t deny the existence of gods. It just argues that gods are subject to the same natural laws that humans are, and so through transcending them through enlightenment, we can escape gods’ power to cause us suffering. Conversely, it implies that gods are also unable to take suffering away.

The role of different political structures / social hierarchies: the exponents of these structures tend to profess that they are the the most beneficial to humanity as a whole. Eg Capitalism, Nazism, Fascism, Liberalism, socialism, communism. In their own way, they profess to be the best / most moral method for ordering society, but all have their own shortcomings.

If I think of anything else, I’ll let you know.

Hope this helps.
Reply 5
Original post by rachmaninov
hello. Apologies for the late reply.

It’s good that you are looking around on the internet finding ideas. I think what you need to do with them is write them all down, and try to group them together, so that your presentation can be organised.

Am i right in thinking the title of your presentation is simply ‘man vs. Evil’? Off the top of my head, you may find it worth considering the following:

The definition of evil - in general, it denotes profound immorality. The religious perspective goes a little further, regarding evil as a supernatural force causing human suffering, and is the opposite of ‘good’. It may be useful to compare these slightly nuanced interpretations of what evil really is, as different points of view may offer different solutions.

Does evil really exist? Is it just a figment of the collective human imagination? If humanity were to be wiped out now, would the concept of evil perish with us? Or is it something that also manifests in the lives of other animals, and are they able to conceptualise it in the same way, or perhaps they perceive events detrimental to themselves as a condition of nature?

The subjectivity of evil: Different societies, political ideologies and religions will have different ideas of what constitutes immorality, and therefore of what constitutes evil.

The benefit of the species vs the benefit of the individual: For instance, the immense suffering caused to millions of russians under the yoke of the soviet union was justified as a means to an end - the socialist utopia. They therefore would argue that the individual suffering was necessary for the greater good of mankind, and is therefore not at all evil.

Consider the nihilistic perspective: Nihilists believe that there is no objective purpose or value of life, and that ideas of morality are a human invention - that is, there is nothing inherent or natural about the idea of morality. If the same applies to immorality, then there is no inherent evil, i.e. It does not truly exist.

Consider the different solutions that abrahamic religions offer to the problem of evil: Although they are monotheistic, they are also dualist, meaning they believe in two opposing supernatural forces - good and evil. In order to overcome the latter, the individual must choose the former in accordance with the ways of his/her respective religion. My knowledge on abrahamic faiths is quite superficial, so i’ll say no more on this, but you might want to research them individually in order the compare their respective approaches to evil - perhaps to evaluate how they are similar or different from one another.

Consider the buddhist approach: Again, my knowledge is superficial, but i understand that in order to overcome suffering and evil, instead of changing the actual circumstances surrounding it, or praying to a god, buddhists believe that we must change our mindset, so that it can no longer cause us pain. Achieving this mental state is called ‘enlightenment’. Perhaps you could link this to the nihilistic approach, as it appears to tacitly admit that the concept of evil is a disease of the mind? As a side note, buddhism isn’t truly atheist, because it doesn’t deny the existence of gods. It just argues that gods are subject to the same natural laws that humans are, and so through transcending them through enlightenment, we can escape gods’ power to cause us suffering. Conversely, it implies that gods are also unable to take suffering away.

The role of different political structures / social hierarchies: The exponents of these structures tend to profess that they are the the most beneficial to humanity as a whole. Eg capitalism, nazism, fascism, liberalism, socialism, communism. In their own way, they profess to be the best / most moral method for ordering society, but all have their own shortcomings.

If i think of anything else, i’ll let you know.

Hope this helps.


this is amazing
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Original post by Rachmaninov

The role of different political structures / social hierarchies: the exponents of these structures tend to profess that they are the the most beneficial to humanity as a whole. Eg Capitalism, Nazism, Fascism, Liberalism, socialism, communism. In their own way, they profess to be the best / most moral method for ordering society, but all have their own shortcomings.



All of this in order to acheive their perfect world.In order to have good you need bad
(edited 5 years ago)
Original post by YukioLukio
All of this in order to achieve their perfect world. In order to have good you need bad


You could think of evil in relative terms such as that. But this is a very good example for considering the subjectivity of evil - how different political ideologies view different things as being ‘evil’, and contributing to human suffering. For example, communists think that the inequality that pervades a capitalist society is evil, whereas capitalists think the same of the lack of freedom in a communist society.
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Original post by Rachmaninov
You could think of evil in relative terms such as that. But this is a very good example for considering the subjectivity of evil - how different political ideologies view different things as being ‘evil’, and contributing to human suffering. For example, communists think that the inequality that pervades a capitalist society is evil, whereas capitalists think the same of the lack of freedom in a communist society.


Honestly you are one of the most helpful people i've met now i can groub everything together and just focus on remembering everything
Original post by YukioLukio
Honestly you are one of the most helpful people I've met. Now I can group everything together and just focus on remembering everything


Aw I’m happy to help. It is a very interesting thing to think about. If you need any more help, I would be happy to oblige.
Original post by Rachmaninov


The definition of evil - in general, it denotes profound immorality. The religious perspective goes a little further, regarding evil as a supernatural force causing human suffering, and is the opposite of ‘good’. It may be useful to compare these slightly nuanced interpretations of what evil really is, as different points of view may offer different solutions.


basically compare the general definition to the religious but how also by solutions do you mean like praying etc etc

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