Presumably, KSA doesn't think that their punishments are excessive, but does think that our strip clubs and pole dancers are? So, who is right? The answer is 'no-one'. There will never be a resolution to any of this (unless it's by force) as the to-ing and fro-ing of arguments on this thread shows. These never-ending arguments is the reason why people tend to group together according to world-view, and don't like living in alien-to-them environments (despite what politicians and businesss interests might want) - because you'll never get any peace!