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Carr Saunders Halls, LSE
London School of Economics
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Do I stand a chance for Economic History?

I recently received my A level results in history, biology and chemistry. In these subjects I achieved A*BB respectively. For both biology and chemistry, one exam in each let me down causing me to fall to a B grade, however after talking with my teachers I have been advised to retake these exams during the gap year I had planned anyway and hopefully boost the B grades to A/A* grades (I am a Welsh student and I sat the old style of A level so I'm able to resit modular exams, hence I would only have to retake one exam for both subjects).

However, I'm aware that LSE are not particularly keen on A level retakes. Despite this, Economic History's standard offer from LSE is AAB, and the only preferred subject is at least one essay subject. Therefore, despite not meeting the academic requirement of AAB, I have achieved A*BB which is the same in UCAS points with an A* in my essay subject, history, which is far more relevant to the course than both biology and chemistry. Therefore what is the likelihood of me getting an offer from here/considered by the University?

Additionally, I achieved 8 A*s and 5 As at GCSE with A*s in biology, chemistry, physics, maths, english literature, english language, geography and religious studies.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Anna :smile:
Reply 1
Realistically you don’t actually meet their offer, unless they’re contextual factors for your achieved grades. Overall, AAB > A*BB, (they look at grades and not point scores) they rather a spread of grades, to show consistency, and yes they aren’t keen on retakes. But, most people applying to courses at lse with achieved a levels will be meeting their exact offer, if not higher, as lse normally say that meeting their conditional requirement doesn’t guarantee an offer. Retaking the units might increase your chances, you may get an offer with A*BB, you never know until you apply.

Good luck!!
Carr Saunders Halls, LSE
London School of Economics
London
Reply 2
Original post by akpo
Realistically you don’t actually meet their offer, unless they’re contextual factors for your achieved grades. Overall, AAB > A*BB, (they look at grades and not point scores) they rather a spread of grades, to show consistency, and yes they aren’t keen on retakes. But, most people applying to courses at lse with achieved a levels will be meeting their exact offer, if not higher, as lse normally say that meeting their conditional requirement doesn’t guarantee an offer. Retaking the units might increase your chances, you may get an offer with A*BB, you never know until you apply.

Good luck!!


Thanks for your reply :smile:
Reply 3
Original post by SomMC1
Hey Anna,
so you've not applied to any uni courses this ucas cycle or have you already been rejected by LSE this cycle? AAB is not that high considering you got A*BB but they would not accept A*BB instead of AAB - it's not the same after all. So with your current grades, you do not meet the minimal requirement and thus would be rejected.
So yes, your only option is to retake the one B and hope that A*AB is enough to get you a spot. Retakes are not something LSE likes at all and on a course like Economics or A&F you would not be considered at all because of the sheer amount of candidates (in thousands) every year. I am not sure how many candidates apply to Economic History every year; depending on how popular it is and how strong your PS&references would be, you could stand a chance, although most probably disadvantaged. Your GCSEs are very good and do show that you are a more than capable student who just kinda messed up A2 for the first time.
good luck


Hey, thanks for your reply!

I didn't apply to University this year and ultimately I didn't even think I'd manage to gain any A levels. I worked hard but at the same time I had to work full time hours to support my family and I had a lot of personal issues which made me think I wouldn't do well. I'm going to be retaking the 2 A level exams (one in biology and one in chemistry) which went particularly badly which I believe are due to some circumstances that happened at the time of the exams and even if I boost these exams to just scraping an A grade I can achieve an A* overall. The retakes are something I want to do anyway for myself regardless of trying to meet LSE's standard offer.

Thank you for your advice :smile:
Reply 4
Original post by SomMC1
Hey, in that case could you perhaps disclose and include extenuating circumstances when applying to uni? This could/should lower the requirements. Please do check (and call) LSE to see if extenuating circumstances were to be applied, what would the requirements be for your course? Your school/doctors/etc would have to confirm these, of course.

Good luck:smile:


Hey, I'm not sure if my circumstances would be allowed. Given the working aspect I was doing it as my mum is out of work due to illness and my dad is self employed and at the time work wasn't going very well so I took it upon myself to boost my hours. I believe that with extenuating circumstances it has to be something out of your control, however it was my choice to work more. Additionally with the more personal problems I haven't disclosed these to anyone and I don't think I can :frown:
Original post by annaandrews
I recently received my A level results in history, biology and chemistry. In these subjects I achieved A*BB respectively. For both biology and chemistry, one exam in each let me down causing me to fall to a B grade, however after talking with my teachers I have been advised to retake these exams during the gap year I had planned anyway and hopefully boost the B grades to A/A* grades (I am a Welsh student and I sat the old style of A level so I'm able to resit modular exams, hence I would only have to retake one exam for both subjects).

However, I'm aware that LSE are not particularly keen on A level retakes. Despite this, Economic History's standard offer from LSE is AAB, and the only preferred subject is at least one essay subject. Therefore, despite not meeting the academic requirement of AAB, I have achieved A*BB which is the same in UCAS points with an A* in my essay subject, history, which is far more relevant to the course than both biology and chemistry. Therefore what is the likelihood of me getting an offer from here/considered by the University?

Additionally, I achieved 8 A*s and 5 As at GCSE with A*s in biology, chemistry, physics, maths, english literature, english language, geography and religious studies.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Anna :smile:

LSE does not care about UCAS points. Top universities want you to consistently achieve their entry standards across three subjects, which you haven't done. You don't meet their offer and are therefore extremely unlikely to be considered for the course with your current grades.

'Given the competition for places and the nature of assessment at LSE, we prefer students who have achieved high grades in their first attempt (and in one sitting) at relevant examinations. . . . Although applicants re-sitting exams will be considered, your application will be in competition with applicants who are predicted, or obtained, the required grades in their first exam sitting.'

https://lfylive.lse.ac.uk/lfy/tc/enquiries/enquiry.html?a=4&q=1269&searchString=
(edited 5 years ago)
Reply 6
Original post by SomMC1
Heya, the working part may not be deemed as extenuating circumstances, as you said, it was your own choice although the home environment made you do too much working, so one could argue that case as well. Uni of Reading says this: "Claims will be considered where your performance or ability to work has been impaired circumstances that are beyond your control; such as accidents, severe illness, death or severe illness of close relative or partner, mental health problems, a physical attack, or other events of comparable effect)." Your mom has an illness, thus couldnt work and thus you had to take your time to work instead of studying. That in itself is extenuating circumstances as it's out of your control that you mom got sick; bless her!

The personal issues you were mentioning could be where you could apply for extenuating circumstances. If those are mental health issues or any problems in general, you should be given those extenuating circumstances requirements, if it's approved by doctors and your school. Regardless what your personal issues were, you'd need to share them with a doctor and the school.

What were your predicted grades? Your GCSEs are purely amazing and shows that youre a very clever student.


Thanks again for your reply :smile: my predicted grades were 2 A*s in biology and chemistry and an A in history
Reply 7
Original post by Glassapple
LSE does not care about UCAS points. Top universities want you to consistently achieve their entry standards across three subjects, which you haven't done. You don't meet their offer and are therefore extremely unlikely to be considered for the course with your current grades.

'Given the competition for places and the nature of assessment at LSE, we prefer students who have achieved high grades in their first attempt (and in one sitting) at relevant examinations. . . . Although applicants re-sitting exams will be considered, your application will be in competition with applicants who are predicted, or obtained, the required grades in their first exam sitting.'

https://lfylive.lse.ac.uk/lfy/tc/enquiries/enquiry.html?a=4&q=1269&searchString=


I know that LSE doesn't look at UCAS points, I was just curious whether I'd stand a chance as the only subject which is applicable to the course that I took at A level is history in which I gained an A*. Although clearly I am aware that my results aside from that aren't good enough

Thank you for your reply

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