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EU Migration Crisis

Mann.Pia

Are the efforts taken by the EU Commission enough to curb the migration crisis?

Reply 1

BFG9000

they are the reason why the crisis exists in the first place... :biggrin:

Reply 2

Mann.Pia

Original post by BFG9000

they are the reason why the crisis exists in the first place... :biggrin:

That is true but the do you think that the recent Regional Disembarkation Schemes are of any help?

Reply 3

BFG9000

Original post by Mann.Pia

That is true but the do you think that the recent Regional Disembarkation Schemes are of any help?

That's essentially the first step to the Australian model of immigration control.
But at this time it seems to be dead in the water

Reply 4

999tigger

Original post by BFG9000

they are the reason why the crisis exists in the first place... :biggrin:

Think that would be the war in Syria which wasnt started by the commission.

Reply 5

BFG9000

Original post by 999tigger

Think that would be the war in Syria which wasnt started by the commission.

About 94% of all migrants aren't from Syria.

Reply 6

999tigger

Original post by BFG9000

About 94% of all migrants aren't from Syria.

So break down your 94% and the migrants you have an issue with.
You want to stop immigration altogether?

Reply 7

BFG9000

Original post by 999tigger

So break down your 94% and the migrants you have an issue with.
You want to stop immigration altogether?

Whoever makes it here without proper VIsa or permit of some kind should not be here.

Reply 8

999tigger

Original post by BFG9000

Whoever makes it here without proper VIsa or permit of some kind should not be here.

And is that 94%

Whats the source of your 94% figure?

Do you understand what the law is on refugees?

Reply 9

BFG9000

Original post by 999tigger

And is that 94%

Whats the source of your 94% figure?

Do you understand what the law is on refugees?

Majority of migrants are not refugees. They just happen to be from an impoverished country, that does not make you a refugee. About 2 billion people live in that "condition", this is not a valid reason for them to move into the UK or Germany.
The 94% is from an article I have to google it.

Reply 10

Doctor Robert

Original post by Mann.Pia

Are the efforts taken by the EU Commission enough to curb the migration crisis?

What do you mean?

Reply 11

999tigger

Original post by BFG9000

You jump fom one argument to another , but your argument isnt coherent.

You stated the EU is to blame. You havent explained why.

You then complain about 94% of migrants, but dont give a source and cant explain whether you are against migration in general. If you are against migration then are you proposing the EU/ UK puts a stop to it?

Yes the majority of migrants arent refugees as they use the immigration system of visas that every country has in place. You are stating the obvious.

We have a system for sorting out refugees as do most countries in the world based on international law and agreements most countries in the world have signed. Do you believe we should ignore international law?

You arent coherent and you arent making sense.

Reply 12

BFG9000

Original post by 999tigger

What I meant is that majority of illegal migrants in current wave are not refugees but economical migrants. Also, migrant sorting does not work. It is impossible to deport someone whos real nationality is unknown or who is being rejected by his country of origin (Which is very easy to arrange.) Or if you claim to be a child (no matter how old you are).
EU officials are in support of taking in millions of migrants. Merkel's open invitation was just a massive cluster f...
No action was taken to stop the migration. Only actions taken by EU are attempts to create forced quotas for countries rejecting fake refugees but not to end it as a whole.
Think about the UK, nobody who makes it here can pass as refugee unless they happen to claim to be running from war-torn France or famine in the Netherlands.
The core of Australian model is that if someone makes it to Austraila illegally, no matter... how long they stay there, what they do for living, how much tax they paid, they will never gain legal status no matter what.
Creating the system like that and advertising it well could easily end the immigration wave

Reply 13

Audrey18

Original post by Mann.Pia

Are the efforts taken by the EU Commission enough to curb the migration crisis?

Original post by BFG9000

That's essentially the first step to the Australian model of immigration control.
But at this time it seems to be dead in the water

if you read the textbook very carefully it says that the EU commission have been very poor to manage the situation. German prime minister made a mistake when she allowed one million migrants to come to germany. there were many rape cases but the police were told not to disclose the figures. lifes of many innocent german women have been destroyed and it will never be the same again.

the book also talks about the dangers of conflating multiculturalism with open door policies. you cannot allow people from different countries and mentalities to come into one country and expect them to assimilate . there are bound to be problem. migration has to be controlled. if your workforce requires 1000 workers then you allow 1000 to come in and be given work permits after they have passed background checks like HIV, STD, criminal records etc. If they fail any of the checks then they should not be given a 2 year work visa.

read the book carefully. all the information is inside.