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Exponential models S1 question

Data are coded using y=Log y and X=Log x to give a linear relationship. The equation of the regression line for the coded data is Y=1.2 + 0.4X

a) State whether the relationship between y and x is in the form ax^n or y=kb^x.
Original post by dont know it
Data are coded using y=Log y and X=Log x to give a linear relationship. The equation of the regression line for the coded data is Y=1.2 + 0.4X

a) State whether the relationship between y and x is in the form ax^n or y=kb^x.


Thoughts??
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Original post by dont know it
Data are coded using y=Log y and X=Log x to give a linear relationship. The equation of the regression line for the coded data is Y=1.2 + 0.4X

a) State whether the relationship between y and x is in the form ax^n or y=kb^x.

Perform a direct substitution and rearrange to one of the given forms.
Original post by RDKGames
Thoughts??

Not a clue if I'm honest.
Original post by dont know it
Not a clue if I'm honest.


Sub in Y = log(y) and X = log(x) and reareange for y. What form do you get??
Original post by RDKGames
Sub in Y = log(y) and X = log(x) and reareange for y. What form do you get??

I still don't understand. I rearrange to get y=10^1.2 . 10^0.4logx
Original post by dont know it
I still don't understand. I rearrange to get y=10^1.2 . 10^0.4logx


Yeah, now notice that 100.4logx=10logx0.4=??10^{0.4\log x} = 10^{\log x^{0.4}} = ??

What's the last equality?
Original post by RDKGames
Yeah, now notice that 100.4logx=10logx0.4=??10^{0.4\log x} = 10^{\log x^{0.4}} = ??

What's the last equality?

x=10^0.4? I'm really confused.
Original post by dont know it
x=10^0.4? I'm really confused.


So you are.

Notice: 100.4logx=10logx0.4=x0.410^{0.4\log x} = 10^{\log x^{0.4}} = x^{0.4}.

Hence y=101.2x0.4y = 10^{1.2} x^{0.4}.

So what sort of form is this? axnax^n or kbxkb^x ?
Why does that first line give x^0.4?
Original post by dont know it
Why does that first line give x^0.4?


Because 10logx=log(10x)=x10^{\log x} = \log(10^x) = x

Log and exponential are inverse operations of each other. They cancel out.
Original post by RDKGames
Because 10logx=log(10x)=x10^{\log x} = \log(10^x) = x

Log and exponential are inverse operations of each other. They cancel out.

Could you just use the power rule i.e. logx.10 = log10x = x? Or is that wrong?
Original post by dont know it
Could you just use the power rule i.e. logx.10 = log10x = x? Or is that wrong?


Well by the power rule we have log(10x)=xlog(10)=x\log(10^x) =x \log(10) = x

But to show that 10logx=x10^{\log x} =x we just denote y=10logxy = 10^{\log{x}}, take logs to get logy=log(10logx)=logx\log y = \log(10^{\log{x}}) = \log x then this is only possible if x=yx=y, hence we have that x=10logxx = 10^{\log{x}}.
Original post by RDKGames
Well by the power rule we have log(10x)=xlog(10)=x\log(10^x) =x \log(10) = x

But to show that 10logx=x10^{\log x} =x we just denote y=10logxy = 10^{\log{x}}, take logs to get logy=log(10logx)=logx\log y = \log(10^{\log{x}}) = \log x then this is only possible if x=yx=y, hence we have that x=10logxx = 10^{\log{x}}.

Oh right I see thank you. I get it now, at last.

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