Police trying to arrest innocent people?

On this side of the pond, cops are permitted to lie to suspects all the time, in an effort to secure a confession. This is often counter-productive, because if you solicit a false confession, it will come back to 'bite you' in the end. Police management and the local district attorney will not be amused by someone wasting their time in this way. Having too many 'failure to convict' cases is one way that the local DA may be asked to vacate their office, and find other employment. Often cases are dropped, or put in the 'inactive' file, because trying to prosecute may be deemed 'too risky' by the DA's boss. Remember that 'you only get one kick at the cat'. If you try someone for a particular crime, and they are acquitted, you can never try them again - even if postive proof becomes available (say DNA evidence), that conclusively ties them to the crime. Once you have convicted a police officer of extracting a confession by Illegitimate means, the flood gates open. Basically everyone that that cop ever had a hand in convicting of anything, is going to appeal, and it will cost the legal system millions. This sort of thing will REALLY get the cop & his superiors on the 'hot seat' for years.

I suspect that the cops in question thought they saw a resembance to the fellow from the video recordings, and were 'trolling for a response'. Had the fellow exibited some signs of guilt - running, or appearing very nervious, the cop would probably have indulged in more detailed questioning. Eyewitness identifications are nortoriously uncertain and inaccurate. This is one reason that more technical means (DNA, fingerprints, other forensic analysis) have taken over most criminal investigations. In normal western society, there are statutory limits as to how long police can question a subject. After that period of time, they either have to charge the individual or release them. I feel that your best procedure is to initially co-operate with the investigator. Do not volunteer anything, and if they start getting serious, just tell them you want a lawyer, and don't want to talk to them further without council - and stick to it!! They will try to get you to keep talking, but if you stick to your statement, they have to comply. Best of luck.

As likely as seeing 7ft tall folk. They exist but...


As Robert Peel said ‘The public are the Police and the Police are the public’


You get knobs in every walk of life. 99% are fine.

Yeah ive basically have been stopped a few times for overtaking police cars that dont actually know how to drive or follow rules that theyve make them selves (funny that) They seem to drive under the speed limit, and you have to overtake them, and it hurts their ego! You really have to stand your guard and know your stuff because they’ve been given an authoritative status and get all stuck up about it, once you let them know you the road rules and your civil rights etc they either react in one of two ways:

1- either get defensive and try and arrest you or stop you, - which is where the fun starts and you can read the links ive added so you can see what to do next

or

2- actually are rather cool about it and leave you to carry on with your journey

i've figured out that higher up they are the more chilled the policemen are (the older ones are better) the newer/lower down they are, the more defensive/angry they get.

I had to argue and stand my ground at one point where I had to over take them as they were driving at 40mph on a 50mph road, since id done nothing wrong, and I did it safely, I argued and he tried to arrest and call back up, tell them a few laws and they back off, and leave you be, I was late for uni so made points, recorded the incident and made my way down lmao.
Sometimes people get too scared of the cops and just accept what they say, but seriously, some of them take it wayyyy to far! My boyfriend worked for the MOD and hes taught me all this lmao

https://www.gov.uk/arrested-your-rights

https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-of-arrest-your-rights

https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-your-rights

the funny thing is that if they cant actually answer these and attempt to interrogate you, you can actually just say no, you don’t have a legal obligation to reply (unless youre actually in the wrong then fess up)

it hurts their ego a bit when you know your civil rights, as long you haven't done anything wrong, youre not obliged to reply to them unless they give you a reasonable response

im doing my advanced driving test soon and being taught by an former police man, he agrees with me totally


rant over

A complaint that I had upheld was because I was (very temporarily) arrested for refusing to answer questions when there was no reasonable basis for the copper to stop me. I know not all bizzies, but some of them are a law unto themselves.

Has anyone on here been in situation where the police have tried to arrest you for something that they didn't do my experiences with the police has been overwhelmingly positive but this story is from my brother (we'll call him Chris.)

So Chris is wondering around down near Tesco's and this cop comes up to him and his is the exchange.

Cop: Hi there what are you doing out tonight.
Chris: Just buying some beer.
Cop: So your not shop lifting?
Chris **** no
Cop: Stop swearing or I'll arrest you.
Chris: Sorry
Cop: So where are the goods
Chris:What goods?
Cop The goods you stole.
Chris I didn't steal anything.
Cop: Look we've got you on CCTV from last night.(Chris was with me in Reading the night in question)
Chris: I wasn't even in Southampton last night

They went around in circle like this for a few more minutes until this bit of the exchange .

Chris:Look do you want the truth or do you want to hear what you want me to say.
Cop: I want to hear both.

At this point Chris's mates turned up backing up what he said. as he and his mates walk away the cop shouts after them.

Cop: You can't get away with this forever.

It seems to me that the police were trying to force Chris to confess He didn't do I understand doing their job but trying to force a confession like that lying about CCTV evidence seems bit unethical in this case the truth and what the cop wanted to hear were mutually exclusive.

TLDR Cop tried to arrest Chris without any evidence his mates saved him.

Has anyone else seen or had this happen to them?