Discuss: Muslim Violence Is About Generic Criminality, Not Religion

1) Most of the terrorist and Muslims who traveled to Syria from Europe have come from middle class or even affluent and educated backgrounds. Most of them have not experienced personal grievance due to our involvement in the Middle East. 2) There's a direct link between Muslim violence and the doctrines of Martyrdom and Jihad. Christian Palestinians do not blow themselves up even though they suffer under the same political oppression by Israel.

For a non-Muslim you are OBSESSED with Muslims lol
Did a Muslim guy take your girl or something 😂

1) Most of the terrorist and Muslims who traveled to Syria from Europe have come from middle class or even affluent and educated backgrounds. Most of them have not experienced personal grievance due to our involvement in the Middle East. 2) There's a direct link between Muslim violence and the doctrines of Martyrdom and Jihad. Christian Palestinians do not blow themselves up even though they suffer under the same political oppression by Israel.

Well in the US they don’t take in as many unskilled workers apart from Latin America so most Muslims are those working in professional, managerial or semi-skilled work. Those Muslims are usually more willing to integrate than unskilled workers. I think this holds true for every community, the more educated ones are usually more willing to integrate and not be criminals.

your last sentence does not make sense. Palestinian muslims dont blow themselves up, they get killed for defending themselves, i dont see why you had to differentiate both religions who are living under the same roof.

1) Most of the terrorist and Muslims who traveled to Syria from Europe have come from middle class or even affluent and educated backgrounds. Most of them have not experienced personal grievance due to our involvement in the Middle East. 2) There's a direct link between Muslim violence and the doctrines of Martyrdom and Jihad. Christian Palestinians do not blow themselves up even though they suffer under the same political oppression by Israel.

This has been going on for years with many different forms of terrorism - and its largely government who can't make up their minds whether terrorists are "just" criminals or not.

We used to think that it was better that terrorists were simply criminals- certainly with the IRA, the narrative was to paint them as ordinary criminals, to take away any kind of political justification. With Islamic terror, it seems to have gone the other way, where government and "opponents" rush to label it terror, and "supporters" complain that the terrorist label is used.

Personally, unless there is an actual difference in sentenceing (like there is in Spain, which has higher tariffs for terrorism) I don't see what difference it makes, and I'd agree that to an extent calling people terrorists gives some credence or justification to their actions.

They could also be lashing out against perceived racism. Just like how the Yellow Jackets are lashing out against the French state - I believe some of the worst riots in French history a few years back were by Muslims that mimicked the traditional French inferior class style of rioting - basically the lower class lashing out against the monarchy. Whether that perceived racism is something unique to the Muslims is another matter (many races complain about racism, many groups live in poverty, so why should Muslims get any help?).

It's a fallacy that Muslim Americans are actually successful. It's mostly whitewashing by the media. Indians and Sri Lankans earn more than White Americans, Pakistanis and Banlgadeshis LESS. There are Muslim ghettos and I think something like 20% of Bangladeshis live in poverty - I think Pakistanis were the most deported ethnicity after 911.

Pakistani Americans actually earn roughly about the US average. Most Muslim Americans tend to be more liberal and middle class than those in Europe and they get along pretty well with other communities. There’s less segregation, apart from suburban Detroit and Paterson NJ there aren’t really any big Muslim communities, they tend to be quite well assimilated. The US’ biggest problems come from African American communities and some Latin Americans.

Also the terror problem is mostly in Europe. Neither Canada or Australia have had any major terror attacks and the crime rates overall there are pretty low.

Pakistani Americans earn less that White Americans, while Indians and Sri Lankans earn more. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis still suffer from ghettos and poverty in the US, regardless of how you want to whitewash it. Also, there are far less Muslims in the US compared to Canada/Europe where they get more hate.

Pakistani Americans earn less that White Americans, while Indians and Sri Lankans earn more. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis still suffer from ghettos and poverty in the US, regardless of how you want to whitewash it. Also, there are far less Muslims in the US compared to Canada/Europe where they get more hate.

I think it’s best o just see people as individuals rather than groups. There are rich Muslims and poor Muslims, educated ones and uneducated ones, just like Christians, Jews and everyone else and the vast majority of them no around causing crime or problems- it’s a minority of them that ruin it for everyone let’s face it. It’s ridiculous to be prejudiced towards a group just because on average they earn less or have different education levels. Treat people as individuals.

1) Most of the terrorist and Muslims who traveled to Syria from Europe have come from middle class or even affluent and educated backgrounds. Most of them have not experienced personal grievance due to our involvement in the Middle East. 2) There's a direct link between Muslim violence and the doctrines of Martyrdom and Jihad. Christian Palestinians do not blow themselves up even though they suffer under the same political oppression by Israel.