Are white people the victim of racism in South Africa?

Can white people be the victim of racism? If you look at what is going on in south africa is it racist towards white people.

Yes white people can be the victim of racism.

In South Africa there are a lot of very unhappy people of all skin colours. The acts of violence there are abhorrent. Whether it can be called racist to me depends whether someone feels racially offended or not.

Can white people be the victim of racism? If you look at what is going on in south africa is it racist towards white people.

Yes. Black people in Africa are invading white farms and butchering the owners. It’s horrific and must be stopped, but no one will do anything because “well it’s their fault for enslaving blacks 300 years ago”. Don’t expect the racial tensions to ease up, they aren’t going to any time soon.

What an appalling definition. Racism is categorically not dependent on whether someone feels offended by it.

If I say hello to someone in the street and they feel racially offended by it for some reason that doesn’t nean it was racist

Criticising someone for a definition, without finding an alternative is categorically useless.

Practically, if nobody takes offence at something why should it be deemed a wrong thing to say? Cultural norms (including race attitudes) are defined by societal perceptions, how something is perceived defines whether it is acceptable or not.

1)Calling out a bad definition isn’t useless. It’s just not quite as useful as suggesting a different one

2) racism is simple. You are racist if you discriminate against someone because of their race. If you have racist hiring practices you’re still being racist even if the victim of your racism doesn’t realise it and consequently can’t be offended by what you’ve done.

First, white people can be the victim of racism, just like other groups.

In South Africa, it is not as easy as you and other posters have put it. For decades, there was outright theft of lands and resources from black families and indigenous groups by white migrants. This led to a great divide in the country that was aided by apartheid.

The current situation is that the Government has been trying to reclaim the land and return them back to the rightful owners. Crazily enough, the media are calling it theft. Is it theft to return something that was stolen from you?

Let me give an example. As China become the world’s top power, imagine many Chinese people come to the UK and forcefully acquire British land. They use the land and claim it as theirs. Decades pass and the Government then decides to return the lands to the rightful British owners. Would we be jumping around like crazy people, as we are doing now.

I read a story about a guy in SA, who was a descendant of one of Cecil Rhodes’ close aides. He was given about 5,000 acres of arable farmland that was seized from the Xhosa people. Years later, his descendants are farmers and using the land, but the Government wants to return it to the original owners. The response is that it is theft. Really????

People need to read.

The "original owners" are long dead. It's not "returning" anything when you are forcefully taking property from individuals who didn't steal it and giving it to other individuals who didn't actually have anything taken from them. And I don't see the SA government redistributing the land the Zulus took from other African peoples back in the day.

Using your Chinese example, it would be completely wrong to take land away from Chinese people born there and and to give it over to British people who have had nothing to do with it for generations.

It basically boils down to: "You're white and your ancestors took this land from black people (who may or may not have taken it from other black people before them, but who cares), so now we're forcefully taking it from you and giving it to these other black people."

It's stupid and unethical. Don't try and justify it with sophistry.

The current situation is that the Government has been trying to reclaim the land and return them back to the rightful owners. Crazily enough, the media are calling it theft. Is it theft to return something that was stolen from you?
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He was given about 5,000 acres of arable farmland that was seized from the Xhosa people. Years later, his descendants are farmers and using the land, but the Government wants to return it to the original owners. The response is that it is theft. Really????