ban on kosher and halal slaughter has come into effect in the Flanders region of Belg

All civilised people share my beliefs. Animal wellbeing > catering to delusional people's beliefs.

Explain why environmental pollutants are all estrogenic then. They could easily have been androgenic, but they're not. Give me a valid reasonable explanation that makes sense, if it isn't deliberate

I’m curious as to why you hold this belief that halal slaughterhouses don’t treat animals right, they kill them in a much more humane manner than non halal slaughterhouses.

Claiming that everyone agrees with you is you attempting to gather strength to an already weak argument, if you know your argument is correct say so instead of telling me every civilised person on this earth agrees with you, because that claim is invalid, you forgetting about the Muslim and Jewish Community?

I’m curious as to why you hold this belief that halal slaughterhouses don’t treat animals right, they kill them in a much more humane manner than non halal slaughterhouses.

Claiming that everyone agrees with you is you attempting to gather strength to an already weak argument, if you know your argument is correct say so instead of telling me every civilised person on this earth agrees with you, because that claim is invalid, you forgetting about the Muslim and Jewish Community?

Uh yes, organic is grass fed AND open pastured, or it isn't organic as it doesn't meet the minimum requirements to be labeled so. What are you talking about?

Uh yes, estrogen is in the water. Why are you deliberately ignoring the links?
And uh yes EDC's do exist.

They clearly work better. Now answer mine, instead of dodging it again - why aren't most people affected, if they are so bad?

Similarly to be classed organic you just have to feed animals a food source that has not been sprayed with fertiliser or pesticide that isn't approved for organic use (yes thats right some are, and all organic farms use them). Therefore I can assure you most organic farms are not just grass fed

Your link isn't exactly peer reviewed is it, the daily mail? Here is a more reasonable and credible source: https://www.nhs.uk/news/pregnancy-and-child/something-fishy-in-the-water/
The take home message is we do not yet know if this is ultimately harmful to us.

I’m curious as to why you hold this belief that halal slaughterhouses don’t treat animals right, they kill them in a much more humane manner than non halal slaughterhouses.

Claiming that everyone agrees with you is you attempting to gather strength to an already weak argument, if you know your argument is correct say so instead of telling me every civilised person on this earth agrees with you, because that claim is invalid, you forgetting about the Muslim and Jewish Community?

I don't eat processed food, and no 95% of the overall product doesn't need to be organic, 100% does or it isn't organic.


Wrong. They need to be out on pastures, with a natural diet. The only time they're allowed to supplement is for example in winter months where they're allowed to go in doors for their own good


Wrong. We do know it's harmful to us.

I would ask you to find any scientific paper that supports your claim, Levels of cortisol are far higher in halal slaughtered animals than stunned.
Similarly I don't know what part of you believes that having your throat cut while fully conscious is more humane than being unconscious and rendered insensible to pain while that happens.

Not to mention cows actually have a large arterial blood supply on the back of their neck, not cut during halal slaughter - massively prolonging their conscious bleeding out time and pain.

The Islamic community does not have to eat non-stunned halal meat. Stunned halal is accepted by many, for those who do not accept this tough luck.

@TommyD

The animals are still alive when stunned, stunning means drilling a bolt into the animals head until unconscious, we don’t know if it feels pain or not, we like to assume it doesn’t, according to religious laws it is only allowed for an animal to be killed when it is not injured and is healthy, you cannot rule out halal or kosher meat because you think the animals don’t feel additional pain when stunned, what you and @Ciel. are saying is that the religious beliefs of many across the globe is not as important as your hunch that animals don’t suffer pain when stunned, you’re willing to trade the equality and fairness of billions across the world for a hunch.

@TommyD

The animals are still alive when stunned, stunning means drilling a bolt into the animals head until unconscious, we don’t know if it feels pain or not, we like to assume it doesn’t, according to religious laws it is only allowed for an animal to be killed when it is not injured and is healthy, you cannot rule out halal or kosher meat because you think the animals don’t feel additional pain when stunned, what you and @Ciel. are saying is that the religious beliefs of many across the globe is not as important as your hunch that animals don’t suffer pain when stunned, you’re willing to trade the equality and fairness of billions across the world for a hunch.

Your claim that when an animal is stunned it does not feel pain is not fact, it’s your opinion, go ahead and say you feel comfortable exchanging the rights of billions across the world for animal rights which by the way is a hunch that they don’t feel pain when stunned.

Can anyone please define halal slaughter plz
Thanks

"A gun fires a metal bolt into the brain of the animal causing the animal to lose consciousness immediately." You don't feel pain when you are unconcious.
It's not my opinion, that's what research shows, and that's what animal experts believe, surely they know better than a little insignificant boy like you.

Here goes... Why argue with people that know the legislation.

'You can only label pre-packed foods ‘organic’ if at least 95% of the ingredients are organic.'
Lifted directly from the UK governments website:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/organic-food-labelling-rules

Just so you know natural diet means any plant based product, including soya. And magically you have changed from they have to be raised outside to only raised outside sometimes.

Just as a Daily Mail article isn't scientific proof - neither is a huffington post article.

The unconscious brain still registers pain, they may feel it but obviously be unable to show it, your little wise crack is quite amusing considering you’re unable to put a point across without sounding like a 2 year old on a tantrum.

How do you make a steak only 95% organic you buffoon? xD you're insane. Nobody is injecting my steaks with 5% of rubbish I assure you. I've been to the farm and they are fed 100% grass-fed (and clover) diet so I don't even know what you're arguing or what your point even is. I'm not going to just shrug my shoulders and adopt a girly diet just because you make up stories about 5% of my meat being injected with soy. Which it isn't you're being ridiculous.

And oh? SO you're claiming estrogen isn't having an impact? Oh wait let me guess, "University of Exeter studies aren't a valid source". It's a well known scientific fact that environmental estrogens are feminising men, and in particular is having catastrophic effects on ecology too. But let me guess, University of Florida studies and ChemGroup scientists aren't valid sources either.