The Warwick drama continues

Tigger is well-versed in the code of conduct point. The disrepute provision is the catch-all and is designed to be as broad as possible.

You should contact the students concerned and offer to represent them.

Nobody made anyone sign anything. A student agrees by applying and accpeting the offer of the university.

Back to the original question, then what civil action would that be?

There is the Unfair Commercial Practices Directive. I'm unsure if the Student would be able to apply for this, but technically Universities are businesses and students are consumers. I'm no legal expert but I do know under contract law... and concerning codes of conduct with employee's, they have to be 'fair' and not break legislation. If you were fired for private messages, send in a private space, on a private device, in private time, that resulted in a dismissal from a job, you can actually fight it rather successfully (and many people have).

Yes nobody forced them to sign anything, but they 'had' to sign them to have a place at the university. It's no different to the fact about 80% of terms in tenancy agreements (which is my speciality) are completely unenforceable, despite them being initially written up by solicitors and nobody is forced to sign them either.

I'm not personally aware of any test cases concerning UK university codes of conduct, but it has been in other countries and generally the universities don't come out of it well. Especially if there is no criminal behaviour (whether proven in a civil or criminal court).

Reform is far better medicine than total exclusion. If they've shown proper remorse for their actions then they ought to be given a second chance. From the sounds of it they'll be closely monitored upon their return, and I imagine if they do anything similar again there won't be any third chance for them, that'll be the end of their educational career.

I don't think any student that has been found to have secretly discussed raping others with a conspiratorial group, even if in a 'jokey' way, should be allowed on campus. Warwick is all too obviously trying to be pragmatic to suit the moment when it should in fact be principled, shame on them.

I will just focus on the "I'm no legal expert" bit and leave it there.

It's still pretty frightening for the women students who were the subjects of their violent imagery - which included, let's not forget, discussions about gang raping and murdering them. Quite strange topics for fun relaxing chats.

The university needs to have another think and at the very least, some sort of special security measure needs to be in place, for example, these dangerous-sounding individuals could complete their studies remotely and the girls be warned when they are in the vicinity. Some form of electronic tagging might be a sensible precaution if they must be on campus.

Being given a stupid name on a messanger doesn't stop you from being taken seriously.

Not sure why they would want to go back there, faces and names plastered all over. The amount of stick those two are going to get (rightly so) is going to be massive.

They aren't returning:

Warwick University says rape threat pair won't return
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/feb/05/warwick-university-says-threat-pair-wont-return?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard


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Erm what? That's ridiculous.All that happened was a couple of jokes were made on the internet.People probably say worse things on here or would if it wasn't moderated.They committed no crime.If they had they would have been charged.If you really really try hard you might twist the definition to show intent but that is just seeing stuff that isnt there.Clearly the police found nothing.And you talk of ankle tags? This isn't China.Its actually quite frightening how authoritarian some " liberals" are.

The conversation was obviously intended to be secret but was leaked.

They don't come across like jokes. The statements come across like intended threats and they sound as if they've had extensive experience of rape. However, if they are just very, very stupid, it's a pity that the direction of travel of their stupidity has to be rape and assault, but even more of a pity that they are now permanently and indelibly associated with the reputation of Warwick.

They don't come across like jokes. The statements come across like intended threats and they sound as if they've had extensive experience of rape. However, if they are just very, very stupid, it's a pity that the direction of travel of their stupidity has to be rape and assault, but even more of a pity that they are now permanently and indelibly associated with the reputation of Warwick.