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Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

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Original post by tashkent46
No idea but I think the general principle applies behind any vaccine. It works or it doesn't.

Does it matter if the vaccines are in the hands of bad people?
Original post by COCONUT321
Does it matter if the vaccines are in the hands of bad people?


No, what does it matter if medicine is properly administered by a moral or immoral doctor? Providing the contents of the medicine can be trusted, verified and work, it doesn't matter whether it comes from the Sultan or slave.
Original post by tashkent46
No, what does it matter if medicine is properly administered by a moral or immoral doctor? Providing the contents of the medicine can be trusted, verified and work, it doesn't matter whether it comes from the Sultan or slave.

Yes, so the vaccines need to be analysed by an independent body.
Original post by ThunderBeard
How tho? Those who don’t vaccinate are the only ones at risk from this disease since all the others have resistance.


I don't believe that anything medical is 100%. Even with vaccination, there will be some individuals who are still susceptible to infection. Just like birth control doesn't work 100% of the time. By having a fairly large reservoir of vulnerable individuals in a school - you increase the chance of exposure of those who might be vulnerable. You also increase the costs to society, because some of these non-immune individuals will probably require hospitalization, and some will die. These costs would mostly be avoided (except for the ones where immunization didn't 'take').
Original post by COCONUT321
Yes, so the vaccines need to be analysed by an independent body.

Preferably many different independent medical bodies yes, consisting of academic specialists and practitioners.
Original post by tashkent46
Preferably many different independent medical bodies yes, consisting of academic specialists and practitioners.


Academic specialists are not independent - they get their grants from the government.
Good! I want everywhere to do this. My boyfriend's brother and his wife don't vaccinate their kids, and it's deeply concerning. I don't think I'd want my future kids to be around them until they're old enough to get their vaccines. It's so thoughtless to deliberately not vaccinate your child if they're medically able to be vaccinated!
Original post by COCONUT321
Academic specialists are not independent - they get their grants from the government.

And practitioners get their grants from the drug companies. Your point is???
I used to work for a government organisation that deployed people worldwide - both professionals and their dependents. The kids were routinely vaccinated against: yellow fever, plague, dengue fever,cholera, typhus, typhoid and a bunch of other stuff. I was in the near east, and in the summer there would be widespread typhus and cholera epidemics every year. There would be mile long 'tailbacks' from the roadblocks where the local health dept was 'vaccinating' people with rusty needles. No thanks - i'll take a clean, not previously used one thanks!! Cheers.
Original post by DrawTheLine
Good! I want everywhere to do this. My boyfriend's brother and his wife don't vaccinate their kids, and it's deeply concerning. I don't think I'd want my future kids to be around them until they're old enough to get their vaccines. It's so thoughtless to deliberately not vaccinate your child if they're medically able to be vaccinated!
Original post by Good bloke
How so? Many countries have equivalent rules, including Belgium, France, USA and several Australian states. It makes sure that society is protected by herd immunity from dangerous diseases.

Perhaps the space vacated by ISIS in the Middle east can be turned over to the anti-vaxxers so they can have their own civilisation without modern medical techniques.


I agree.
The parents should be responsible and get their kids vaccinated.
Good idea, provided their government is giving for free the vaccinations it demands kids have.

Vaccinations aren't effective in everyone, so we need as many people as possible to have them in order to limit the spread of a disease to those the vaccination didn't work for. If someone wants to run that risk for their own children, they're a rubbish parent but at least the harm can be limited to that immediate family.
Original post by NewGestapo
So its more or less compulsory autism then?

This shouldn't be a surprise Orwell, Huxley and Russell all predicted this controlled technocratic-fascist police state would soon emerge. No need to really bother with social crediting just enforce mandatory retardation worldwide and watch all social resistance crumble.


With a username like that, I don’t think I will take advice from you.
Original post by NewGestapo
So the idea that most of the worlds largests corporations still have a Nazi underpinning, that is irrelevant to you is it? IBM, Bosch, Krups, VW...the formation of BIlderberg, Federal Reserve, the CIA...these are all transparent honourable institutions?


What you want is a lawless world, where everyone lives by their own rules and no government exists.
Original post by NewGestapo
So its more or less compulsory autism then?

This shouldn't be a surprise Orwell, Huxley and Russell all predicted this controlled technocratic-fascist police state would soon emerge. No need to really bother with social crediting just enforce mandatory retardation worldwide and watch all social resistance crumble.


Vaccines don’t cause autism. If you’d have gone to school you’d have learnt: 1) about how vaccines work and why they’re so vitally important and 2) how research methods influence the reliability of results. The likes of a small sample size, sampling bias, researcher effect, qualitative data subjectivity and self-report data flaws (incl. demand characteristic and social desirability) all likely played into the production of the flawed report. Not to mention the positive publication bias in journals looking to make money, by not following the correct peer review process, leading to the publication of the report, and the fact the original scientist has since retracted the report and admitted it was completely falsified.

People like you lead to vulnerable parents choosing the wrong option for the health of their child and the children and vulnerable people around them. Stop clinging on to this extremely outdated and disproven beating-stick and pull yourself into the real world!
Original post by NewGestapo
No I favour non secular law. Sharia is actually quite a good framework. But as long as the nation states are retained....which they won't be at this rate.


Do you want the world to be governed by Sharia or through any religion. Hello no. Secular for the win. You either live with it or don’t. Non secular doesn’t work since it promotes biased views and discrimination.
Original post by NewGestapo
So its more or less compulsory autism then?

This shouldn't be a surprise Orwell, Huxley and Russell all predicted this controlled technocratic-fascist police state would soon emerge. No need to really bother with social crediting just enforce mandatory retardation worldwide and watch all social resistance crumble.

The MMR vaccine does not cause autism. The scientist who published that paper (Andrew Wakefield) was bribed to tailor his research to achieve a specific result. His license to practice has since been revoked and the paper retracted by the journal that published it. Other scientists (e.g. Dr Hideo Honda & co) have since conducted studies showing that the link between MMR and autism does not exist.
Original post by NewGestapo
Unfortunately your ilk will lead us towards militant enforced liberalism. Man has lived as a tribal animal for millenia, we thrive best when we interact in small interrelated tribes rather than multiethnic metropoles. Divine law is a natural moral way to prevent disorder.


Your ones will lead us back into the dark ages. Your views have lead to wars between catholics and Protestants as well as the crusades.
I’ll take liberalism and tolerance over religious favouritism and discrimination anyday

To you everything is black or white when in reality, it’s more of a grey
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Original post by NewGestapo
Trouble is though most academics get the bulk of their funding from Rothschild related sources. So there is a strong incentive to tow the corporate-government line.

Even if I were to believe you and your ridiculous consipracy theory. You still are failing acknowledge the millions of people in the UK, who don’t have autism who have been vaccinated with the MMR vaccine.
But you happy to believe that 12 people with autism, who happened to have had the MMR vaccine is enough to warrant not having the vaccine at all. Smells like selective abstraction to me!
Original post by NewGestapo
Unfortunately your ilk will lead us towards militant enforced liberalism. Man has lived as a tribal animal for millenia, we thrive best when we interact in small interrelated tribes rather than multiethnic metropoles. Divine law is a natural moral way to prevent disorder.


Sadly medical science has not yet reached the point of providing a vaccine to cure your explosive verbal diarrhoea.
Original post by thestudent33
Some parent's don't want this done tho, so the school should recognise that.


I agree poor kids because its them with the tin foil hat parents.

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