George Clooney calls for boycotting Brunei-owned hotels

bye boo, I provided links that debunked your claims.

Many of the people, who can afford to boycott the hotel, are either not on TSR nor do they care about the boycott.

Also, there are many other countries that we do business with that actively kill homosexuals. We sell weapons to Saudi Arabia, despite the fact we know they are openly homophobic.

George Clooney's call for the boycott of hotels owned by the Sultan of Brunei is gaining traction, the Beverly Hills Hotel just lost 2 big gigs as a result. Also, a string of companies confirmed late last week that they would no longer be using the five-star hotel’s facilities so Clooney's calling him out is having a noticeable effect due to the tarnished brand image. That's the thing: celebrities speak, people listen.

You are forgetting about multinational companies that would be worried about tarnishing their brand image. A string of companies confirmed late last week that they would no longer be using some of these hotels' facilities.

You provided articles - opinions f a random third party unsupported by any evidence..

Journalists running away from Muslim communities... or is it "not relevant too"? you don't like it, therefore it does not exist, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO9vBHZRBQ4

Lol they can boycott all they want but nothing will stop Brunei from practising Islamic law. The entire Muslim world stands with Brunei right now and a few celebrities boycotting some hotels won’t change that.

Did you read it?



No, it's not relevant, you have yet to provide evidence of an increased risk of homophobic motivated attack by simply living near a large Muslim community.

Many of the people, who can afford to boycott the hotel, are either not on TSR nor do they care about the boycott.

Agreed with the idea of your post, but to say the entire Muslim world stands with Brunei is a bit extreme. You are saying that all those who adhere to the religion of Islam, or the societies where Islam is practiced stand with Brunei. A very lazy hasty generalization.

Ok, hundreds of millions of muslims do...

He's not generalising @Fallacies - he's only speaking for "hundreds of millions of muslims"

Do you think this will make a difference?

The nine hotels owned by Brunei are:

The Dorchester, London
45 Park Lane, London
Coworth Park, UK
The Beverly Hills Hotel, Beverly Hills
Hotel Bel-Air, Los Angeles
Le Meurice, Paris
Hotel Plaza Athenee, Paris
Hotel Eden, Rome
Hotel Principe di Savoia, Milan

"The Brunei-owned luxury hotels facing an international boycott have hidden their social media accounts after backlash over laws in the country were enacted this week making gay sex punishable by death. The hotels, which are operated under the Dorchester Collection brand, have faced a celebrity-led international boycott after implementing the new laws."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brunei-owned-hotels-hide-social-media-accounts-after-boycott-and-backlash-over-anti-gay-laws/

Where did you get that stat from Muslimbeliefs.com? I already know what your answer will be so let me say we are straying to different areas: laws are not representative of all the civilians' beliefs and it almost impossible to determine a figure of how many Muslims believe that gays should be stoned. Community and individual beliefs are not the same as the ideology as a whole and its general reading. My point remains that all-claims (saying that all Muslims have homogenous beliefs) is extremely false. There are many different schools of thoughts regarding this, even in jurisprudence. As I also stated before some may condemn homosexuality but not all necessarily believe they should be stoned to death.

Not saying it is right to condemn homosexuality, but the point I've been making is generalizations regarding this are mostly erroneous.

Somehow, I don't think Clooney's words were aimed at TSR

And some of us must care about the boycott to some degree or we wouldn't be discussing it right

Well, I can see an obvious pattern when it comes to LGBT in countries like Somalia: Afghanistan, Sudan, Brunei, Iran, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Yemen, Palestine, Iraq, Algeria... different countries in very different parts of the world with a very different standard of living, yet their enormous hate (of the general public) towards LGBT or apostates is rather obvious. Often the lynching is done by random people without any governmental intervention. All of the people from very different societies, never met each other yet all of them will justify hate towards gays by citing the same passages of the same book.

It's not so long that 600 kids from a public school in the UK were kept home by their parent solely and only because the hate LGBT so much they do not even want their kids to know about them. I am sure that it is very "safe" for people from LGBT to live in that community.

So yes, it is hundreds of millions of people.

So, the attitudes you see now on the news are not just a simple byproduct of Islam. And not to mention, these countries are corrupt and their systems are broken. It is also a result of lack of education and terrorist groups that do take the general reading. But by no means do these corrupt individuals represent every single person's beliefs.

Countries I mention do not have anything in common apart of Islam and they do add up to several hundreds of millions of people.

Palestine has elected government with the program sinning around killing all Jews as they stated publicly on TV and in the UN.

I just wanted to put it out there. Don't know the socioeconomic conditions of all TsR members, but most of us would either not care about the boycott or not be able to afford it.

As for caring, we should not be picking and choosing our social justice campaigns. We turn a blind eye to Saudi Arabia but then criticise Brunei, we ignore US expansionist policies but attack Russia.