UK turning into a Police state? Internet censorship

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Nothing good about porn anyway stop crying

They won't, and can't really ban VPNs... It'd mean every service provider would have to migrate to MPLS, and that's just insane given that MPLS/SDWAN is only really required for ease, and high speed video connectivity

Even the NHS uses VPNs over the N3 network. We use it to connect into our own office elsewhere! MPLS for an office with two people in it is just insane..

Government will try and act tough, saying they're going to ban VPNs or ban cryptography, but ultimately businesses will say "What the hell are you doing?" and the government will quietly backtrack whilst appeasing their older demographic.

It's also likely that ISPs will do the absolute bare minimum, and will do changes on the DNS security side of things, as required by law. Just like with piracy, that's super easy to get around...

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Reply 22

The_Internet

Kinda. They could say we're going ban what most people see as P2P downloads. It would be awful for Linux distributions however in the enterprise, I don't know anyone who'd download a distro via P2P

If the government doesn't understand what they want, and put into law that you can't have any P2P traffic whatsoever in the UK, then you can pretty much say bye bye to the economy, given that at ISPs you will have one IP at your side, and one IP at the customer's side ie: a peer to peer link. If they word it incorrectly, and it becomes law, we'd be pretty screwed...

Reply 23

Greywolf.

Original post by Jules89090

First of all, any and all teenagers who want access to porn, will get it, via worse sites with highly illegal material, the deep web, or by using VPN's, so this solves nothing.

Secondly, sure, a lot of porn is destructive, which is why people should be educated about what a healthy sex life is. There are sex positive porn videos that don't warp peoples minds. Trying to block all porn won't help society, I can assure you that.

3rd, the UK government previously already banned all porn depicting female orgasms, but not male, so forgive me if I don't have confidence in their ability to remain objective when deciding what is good or not for general society.

4th, if they block this, why wouldn't they attempt to block other things they don't want the public viewing? All other governments (bar non) who have passed similar laws did exactly that.

You tell people not to watch this video but you've provided no sources for any counter points. Just your own conservative views.

Most teens don't know how to access the proper dark web, by downloading a TOR browser you are only at the entrance of the portal to the deep web

Reply 24

Jules89090

Russia, Turkey and China have banned VPN's. While they still exist, they are constantly getting broken, shut down and people caught using them get in real trouble, as in prison time, if the authorities feel like it. I'm completely ready to believe that the UK would break it's own country and take away people's civil liberties like that in the name of "national security" or some other BS.

Reply 25

Greywolf.

I don't know where you get these extreme views from but that is definitely not true

Original post by Jules89090

Reply 26

Fullofsurprises

Original post by ThomH97

I do believe it's intended to protect younger people. However, it clearly won't, and at the cost of a massive security and privacy risk.

This appears to be a typical government project of contemporary Britain.

(1) The media raise a problem, part of which is genuine and part overdone.
(2) The government promise a knee-jerk simplistic solution rather than analysing it properly and thinking it through.
(3) Legislation is rushed past compliant MPs scared by the public reaction to (1).
(4) A private corporation is then contracted to run the 'solution', badly and at great cost to the taxpayer.
(5) The contractor abuses or loses the private information of clients.
(6) After a few years of chaos the service is dropped.

Usually step (1) is inspired by the contractor mentioned in steps (4) and (5) via the adroit use of PR firms and tame journalists.

Reply 27

the beer

Original post by The_Internet

They won't, and can't really ban VPNs.

Couldn't they do something like introduce licenses and/or ban the use of any VPN that allows circumvention of UK law or doesn't provide them with government-mandated backdoors?

Reply 28

username4454836

Original post by the beer

Couldn't they do something like introduce licenses and/or ban the use of any VPN that allows circumvention of UK law or doesn't provide them with government-mandated backdoors?

If there is a backdoor for legitimate parties it is also a backdoor for illegitimate parties.

Reply 29

the beer

Original post by Decahedron

If there is a backdoor for legitimate parties it is also a backdoor for illegitimate parties.

Well yeah, not saying it's a good idea, just something i can imagine the government doing.

Reply 30

KellyM90

Oh really? The way Russia managed to get it's internet to the state it's currently in is by passing internet decency laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Protecting_Children_from_Information_Harmful_to_Their_Health_and_Development

UK is in the process of doing. Not only with porn but you can now also get arrested for the things you say online here in the UK. Personally I think it's a good thing though. We don't need all that filth anymore. The internet shouldn't be so open anymore. It's dangerous.

Reply 31

KellyM90

I do agree that the OP is an extreme liberal, but she seems to be on the mark in regards the UK gradually implementing internet censorship. Turkey and Russia didn't block the internet overnight. They did it in increments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Protecting_Children_from_Information_Harmful_to_Their_Health_and_Development

Original post by Greywolftwo

I don't know where you get these extreme views from but that is definitely not true

Reply 32

username4454836

Original post by the beer

Well yeah, not saying it's a good idea, just something i can imagine the government doing.

Even the isn't government that stupid.

Reply 33

the beer

Original post by Decahedron

Even the isn't government that stupid.

hmm, maybe.

Reply 34

username4454836

Original post by the beer

hmm, maybe.

It didn't take them long to drop the whole "encryption is the enemy" tagline.

Reply 35

username3774332

we should follow in the steps of mother russia

Reply 36

the beer

Original post by Decahedron

It didn't take them long to drop the whole "encryption is the enemy" tagline.

Didn't it go through in Australia?

Reply 37

username4454836

Original post by the beer

Didn't it go through in Australia?

They passed a law but as far as I can tell nothing has actually been implemented.

You have to remember that Australia really is a nanny state. They treat BB guns the same as live firing firearms.