China slaps US goods with new tariffs

britain, france, etc were all full fledged monsters before their 'rise' to modernity and 'lesser evil'. why not let china have a piece of this pie?

We (Britain) did more good in Africa than bad by far. the Africans have ruined what we gave them and have proven to be incapable of ruling (not all africans just africa in general)

And China 'uplifting' their people is the equivalent of a mother raising a child so she can abuse it later in life.
And Africa is now Exploiting African people too.

anything to damage china is a good thing

This is where the antagonism towards the guy takes off into another dimension, you do point out the challenges posed by China and then go on to accuse Trump of not doing enough about them when he takes them head on like nobody else would. It's one of those where anyone impartial must wonder if he isn't doing the world a favour, China will just rape and pillage their way through the world if unchecked. Not literally, of course.

Well then i might as well say Nazi Germany are gods because they improved technology massively, got rid of the handicapped, thus less unemployed, and .. etc

Remind me where all of your belongings are made?

it's not really the case that China makes everything. My phone was made in Vietnam, wallet India, suit USA, dress shoes Mexico, slippers Brazil, signet ring England, waistcoat Scotland, underwear Portugal, trousers Turkey, t-shirt Bangladesh, paperweight Egypt, dress watch Hong Kong, sports watch Russia, wine Spain, pencil Japan, flip-flops Myanmar, face cream France, body cream Poland, another cream Germany, tea Argentina, shirt Cuba, coat Korea, and so on.

Obviously quite a few things were made in China, but many different countries together can replace and are starting to replace China. China is getting more expensive while its skills are not as good as those in developed countries like Japan.

ranging from concentration camps (South Africa during the Boer War),

via forced deportations and slave labour (millions of workers were despatched using indentured labour, bribes and false claims from India to Africa and elsewhere),

slave workers (let's not even get started on Britain's immense slaving industries),

and expropriation of living resources to sustain life. (numerous examples, the most recent being India in the second world war.)

A contentious assertion there with regards to Britain doing more good than bad in Africa.

Is this the same good that Britain did in India as their share of the world economy fell from 24% before British colonialism to just 4% afterwards?

That really means very little, as Europe and some other countries became more powerful obviously the share of the world economy is going to drop, there are many other reasons bar 'you ruined it'

You'll excuse me for remaining somewhat dubious of your eclectic wardrobe and other belongings.

China is getting relatively more expensive, that is the key word there. All this means is that the low end manufacturing is starting to move to other countries in Asia, such as Vietnam. China is still one of the world leaders in terms of electronics and such though and isnt about to be replaced in the immediate future. The point being you cant just smash deeply established supply chains and expect things to immediately just move somewhere else. that isnt how the modern economy works and especially so in Asia.
The fact remains only a masochist would would to see China collapse in on itself either socially, politically or economically because the blow back to the rest of the world would be biblical.

You'll excuse me for remaining somewhat dubious of your eclectic wardrobe and other belongings.

China is getting relatively more expensive, that is the key word there. All this means is that the low end manufacturing is starting to move to other countries in Asia, such as Vietnam. China is still one of the world leaders in terms of electronics and such though and isnt about to be replaced in the immediate future. The point being you cant just smash deeply established supply chains and expect things to immediately just move somewhere else. that isnt how the modern economy works and especially so in Asia.
The fact remains only a masochist would would to see China collapse in on itself either socially, politically or economically because the blow back to the rest of the world would be biblical.

No matter what they say about the Chinese commies, their decision to replace Marxism with Capitalism was a stroke of genius.

And then to carry on calling it Communism - or Maoism - or whatever. Genius.

And then to carry on calling it Communism - or Maoism - or whatever. Genius.

'Capitalism with Chinese characteristics'

Whilst one can sympathize with the US, to a point, in this situation Trumps handling of it has been hilariously moronic - although my dropping portfolio value simply calls him a ****. He also seems to be blissfully unaware that the US has for centuries been stealing other countries trade secrets, specifically it looted Britains like it was nobodies business and it continues to conduct industrial espionage against countries (although it claims no longer to use stolen secrets to better itself but only in trade negotiations).

Thoughts on this continuing bust up?

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48253002

what are you on about, US corporation are free to file IP protection in the UK and vise versa, Europe and US have very similar IP protections and enforce fairly. China is known to have a 2 tier system depending on if you are a chinese company and frequently steal trade marks, technical & design patents.

Also China has a structure to economically dominate the world, by making it very easy to flood money in but much harder to pull it out of China, and require large companies to do joint ventures with Chinese companies or face huge tariffs. Trump is the only one trying to pull back on the regulations of US companies in China quite frankly the rest of the world should take notice and join the tit for tat tariffs on China, yes its painful short term but its the best way to balance the trade deficit all countries have with China

You were on about the US stealing trade secrets, well there are laws to protect against this. If a person/company/entity had used IP protection it would be impossible for the US to steal it without further legal action, and an unprotected trade secret is nothing, you have no legal right to stop other people doing the same thing in that case... I thought you were getting at Trumps statement about China's biased IP regulations...