Should I choose music?
I really would like to study music at University, but I am afraid that it will be hard to find job afterwards. Currently I have place at Manchester met for photography, but I am thinking to change for music in Univeristy of Chester. Do you think it will be better to take singing lessons while i am doing photography, maybe attend casting or will i get more chance to get a job studing music at Univeristy of Chester
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I'm pretty sure @The_Lonely_Goatherd did Music at Uni 
I did indeed 
Thanks for the tag, Razzz 
Tbh I'd say finding a job with a music degree might be easier than with a photography degree. Depending on the university, music can go as either a creative arts degree or a humanities degree and it has a lot of transferable skills that relate to non-music jobs. Whereas I think photography is quite specific and might prove more limiting than music, as a degree? As it's more vocational than a music degree...
That said, if your aim is to be a professional singer, you could always do the photography degree first and then do a postgrad course at a musical theatre college or a music conservatoire afterwards. My understanding is that the voice has naturally matured better for all singers by 21 than it has aged 18 or 19. So that's worth considering
But yeah, a music degree doesn't limit you to just music-related careers!
That said, if you have a degree in music, it's easier to advertise yourself as a self-employed instrumental teacher, if that'd interest you? 
Thanks for the tag, Razzz Tbh I'd say finding a job with a music degree might be easier than with a photography degree. Depending on the university, music can go as either a creative arts degree or a humanities degree and it has a lot of transferable skills that relate to non-music jobs. Whereas I think photography is quite specific and might prove more limiting than music, as a degree? As it's more vocational than a music degree...
That said, if your aim is to be a professional singer, you could always do the photography degree first and then do a postgrad course at a musical theatre college or a music conservatoire afterwards. My understanding is that the voice has naturally matured better for all singers by 21 than it has aged 18 or 19. So that's worth considering
But yeah, a music degree doesn't limit you to just music-related careers!
That said, if you have a degree in music, it's easier to advertise yourself as a self-employed instrumental teacher, if that'd interest you? Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
I did indeed Thanks for the tag, Razzz
Thanks for the tag, Razzz Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
I did indeed Thanks for the tag, Razzz
Tbh I'd say finding a job with a music degree might be easier than with a photography degree. Depending on the university, music can go as either a creative arts degree or a humanities degree and it has a lot of transferable skills that relate to non-music jobs. Whereas I think photography is quite specific and might prove more limiting than music, as a degree? As it's more vocational than a music degree...
That said, if your aim is to be a professional singer, you could always do the photography degree first and then do a postgrad course at a musical theatre college or a music conservatoire afterwards. My understanding is that the voice has naturally matured better for all singers by 21 than it has aged 18 or 19. So that's worth considering
But yeah, a music degree doesn't limit you to just music-related careers! That said, if you have a degree in music, it's easier to advertise yourself as a self-employed instrumental teacher, if that'd interest you?
Thanks for the tag, Razzz Tbh I'd say finding a job with a music degree might be easier than with a photography degree. Depending on the university, music can go as either a creative arts degree or a humanities degree and it has a lot of transferable skills that relate to non-music jobs. Whereas I think photography is quite specific and might prove more limiting than music, as a degree? As it's more vocational than a music degree...
That said, if your aim is to be a professional singer, you could always do the photography degree first and then do a postgrad course at a musical theatre college or a music conservatoire afterwards. My understanding is that the voice has naturally matured better for all singers by 21 than it has aged 18 or 19. So that's worth considering
But yeah, a music degree doesn't limit you to just music-related careers!
That said, if you have a degree in music, it's easier to advertise yourself as a self-employed instrumental teacher, if that'd interest you? Thank you very much for answer
I am singing from when I was a child and it is something that I really wanted to pursue as a career but only now I have just started to learning playing instruments, I really like it and I would like to work as hard in learning but I am afraid that my experience might be too low for university level? Also, I have done before art and media courses i know how it is graded, for what they looking for and how to achieve best grades but I never have been learning music in college so I am afraid that I might get much lower grades as I am not sure about the structure of grading.Original post by Chloee113
Thank you very much for answer I am singing from when I was a child and it is something that I really wanted to pursue as a career but only now I have just started to learning playing instruments, I really like it and I would like to work as hard in learning but I am afraid that my experience might be too low for university level? Also, I have done before art and media courses i know how it is graded, for what they looking for and how to achieve best grades but I never have been learning music in college so I am afraid that I might get much lower grades as I am not sure about the structure of grading.
I am singing from when I was a child and it is something that I really wanted to pursue as a career but only now I have just started to learning playing instruments, I really like it and I would like to work as hard in learning but I am afraid that my experience might be too low for university level? Also, I have done before art and media courses i know how it is graded, for what they looking for and how to achieve best grades but I never have been learning music in college so I am afraid that I might get much lower grades as I am not sure about the structure of grading.Ah I see! In that case, I think you would be better off sticking with photography
Do you think I have a chance of studying music if I will work hard or does it require more experience?
Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
Ah I see! In that case, I think you would be better off sticking with photography
Original post by Chloee113
Do you think I have a chance of studying music if I will work hard or does it require more experience?
I don't know what the requirements or standards are like at Chester, but I think even if you were somehow accepted onto the course, you would probably struggle to keep up
Thanks
Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
I don't know what the requirements or standards are like at Chester, but I think even if you were somehow accepted onto the course, you would probably struggle to keep up
Hi @Chloee113,
If you're interested in launching your career as a professional vocalist, could I introduce you to Echo Factory?
Built and run by musicians for musicians, Echo Factory delivers practical music industry-focused degrees in BMus (Hons) Contemporary Music Performance (COURSE CODE: W315) and BA (Hons) Music Business (COURSE CODE: W375).
We make sure to keep our class sizes small to allow our staff to personalise each of our students' learning to support you in reaching your individual career aspirations.
Alongside rigorous training to develop your talent across multiple contemporary genres; when studying with us, you will gain a 360-degree understanding of the music industry and develop your skills in music production, marketing techniques, digital techniques and music management as well as how to write for different contexts and audiences - all of which will underpin your understanding of the industry so that you can draw on multiple income streams as you launch and develop your career.
We also support students in gaining real-world experience throughout their degree so that you are able to develop your network and build your portfolio during your studies. This could include anything from helping you find performance opportunities to writing for local music magazines, reviewing local gigs and interviewing musicians; getting to know local producers and music industry professionals; involved behind the scenes with one of the many festivals across the Midlands; or getting or gaining work experience in one of the many music organisations based in and around the city - PPL PRS Ltd (new joint venture between the UK's two music licensing societies, PPL and PRS for Music), for example, is based just 5 mins walk from our premises, and we have a great relationship with Blackstar Amps.
Our entry requirements are 64 UCAS points for our performance course plus an audition stage where we find out a little more about your style and talent as a vocalist as well as your personal career aspirations. We also keep our course fees really accessible and charge just £6165 if you're applying to join us in September 2019.
If you have any questions about studying at Echo Factory or about how best to launch your career within the music industry, please feel free to get in touch with our team for unbiased, practical support. You can reach us either by calling 0116 253 5657 or by emailing us at [email protected].
All the best,
Ashley
If you're interested in launching your career as a professional vocalist, could I introduce you to Echo Factory?
Built and run by musicians for musicians, Echo Factory delivers practical music industry-focused degrees in BMus (Hons) Contemporary Music Performance (COURSE CODE: W315) and BA (Hons) Music Business (COURSE CODE: W375).
We make sure to keep our class sizes small to allow our staff to personalise each of our students' learning to support you in reaching your individual career aspirations.
Alongside rigorous training to develop your talent across multiple contemporary genres; when studying with us, you will gain a 360-degree understanding of the music industry and develop your skills in music production, marketing techniques, digital techniques and music management as well as how to write for different contexts and audiences - all of which will underpin your understanding of the industry so that you can draw on multiple income streams as you launch and develop your career.
We also support students in gaining real-world experience throughout their degree so that you are able to develop your network and build your portfolio during your studies. This could include anything from helping you find performance opportunities to writing for local music magazines, reviewing local gigs and interviewing musicians; getting to know local producers and music industry professionals; involved behind the scenes with one of the many festivals across the Midlands; or getting or gaining work experience in one of the many music organisations based in and around the city - PPL PRS Ltd (new joint venture between the UK's two music licensing societies, PPL and PRS for Music), for example, is based just 5 mins walk from our premises, and we have a great relationship with Blackstar Amps.
Our entry requirements are 64 UCAS points for our performance course plus an audition stage where we find out a little more about your style and talent as a vocalist as well as your personal career aspirations. We also keep our course fees really accessible and charge just £6165 if you're applying to join us in September 2019.
If you have any questions about studying at Echo Factory or about how best to launch your career within the music industry, please feel free to get in touch with our team for unbiased, practical support. You can reach us either by calling 0116 253 5657 or by emailing us at [email protected].
All the best,
Ashley
Hi - A family member teaches at Chester Uni but on their Musical Theatre course and I have a friend whose son is studying on their Popular Music Performance course. I'm currently helping my son to research music tech courses and I have a daughter who is training to be a dancer/musical theatre performer.
For entry you need to pass an audition (they are looking for around Grade 8 standard on an instrument or voice but you don;t need the formal qualification) or have 112 UCAS points. To be honest most applicants will have either have been studying a Btec in Performing Arts/Music or Musical Theatre or have A levels and performance experience. The prospectus says the ability to read music is desirable but not essential.
Very few make it as performers, most musicians have what is known as a portfolio career and many university courses are designed to prepare you for that. So you might combine gigging with teaching with working on an arts project/admin side of things or composing/arranging for others or some aspect of music tech. For this I would say you need a knowledge of music theory, and have good muscianship * analytical skills. I'm not sure what you mean by attending castings? I wasn;t aware that there were really music castings as such. Theatre castings yes, for which you generally need to have attended an accredited college with an agent showcase and be submitted by your agent. There are open calls but its trained performers that producers are looking at. Most musicans I know tend to start out small, putting on gigs, advertising wedding bands, maybe getting pit work (for which you need to be able ot read music) etc etc
What is is that draws you to Chester particularly?
For entry you need to pass an audition (they are looking for around Grade 8 standard on an instrument or voice but you don;t need the formal qualification) or have 112 UCAS points. To be honest most applicants will have either have been studying a Btec in Performing Arts/Music or Musical Theatre or have A levels and performance experience. The prospectus says the ability to read music is desirable but not essential.
Very few make it as performers, most musicians have what is known as a portfolio career and many university courses are designed to prepare you for that. So you might combine gigging with teaching with working on an arts project/admin side of things or composing/arranging for others or some aspect of music tech. For this I would say you need a knowledge of music theory, and have good muscianship * analytical skills. I'm not sure what you mean by attending castings? I wasn;t aware that there were really music castings as such. Theatre castings yes, for which you generally need to have attended an accredited college with an agent showcase and be submitted by your agent. There are open calls but its trained performers that producers are looking at. Most musicans I know tend to start out small, putting on gigs, advertising wedding bands, maybe getting pit work (for which you need to be able ot read music) etc etc
What is is that draws you to Chester particularly?
hey i think you could do,thats something im planning on doing
Original post by Chloee113
I really would like to study music at University, but I am afraid that it will be hard to find job afterwards. Currently I have place at Manchester met for photography, but I am thinking to change for music in Univeristy of Chester. Do you think it will be better to take singing lessons while i am doing photography, maybe attend casting or will i get more chance to get a job studing music at Univeristy of Chester
@Echo Factory u said in your other post that you need 64 ucas points to get into, do you have to do music at GCSE or level to get in
Hi @KimJayneNoel,
Thanks for the question
Our entry requirements to study on our BMus (Hons) Contemporary Music Performance course are that you achieve 64 UCAS points and pass an Audition stage where we assess your musical talent. We consider each student as an individual so don't feel that you have to have studied music formally e.g. at GCSE or Level 3 as it's based on your musical competency.
I hope that helps. If you have any other questions or need support in making your next steps, please do get in touch. You can reach our team either by emailing [email protected] or by calling us on 0116 253 5657.
All the best,
Ashley
Thanks for the question
Our entry requirements to study on our BMus (Hons) Contemporary Music Performance course are that you achieve 64 UCAS points and pass an Audition stage where we assess your musical talent. We consider each student as an individual so don't feel that you have to have studied music formally e.g. at GCSE or Level 3 as it's based on your musical competency.
I hope that helps. If you have any other questions or need support in making your next steps, please do get in touch. You can reach our team either by emailing [email protected] or by calling us on 0116 253 5657.
All the best,
Ashley
thanks for this
Original post by Echo Factory
Hi @KimJayneNoel,
Thanks for the question
Our entry requirements to study on our BMus (Hons) Contemporary Music Performance course are that you achieve 64 UCAS points and pass an Audition stage where we assess your musical talent. We consider each student as an individual so don't feel that you have to have studied music formally e.g. at GCSE or Level 3 as it's based on your musical competency.
I hope that helps. If you have any other questions or need support in making your next steps, please do get in touch. You can reach our team either by emailing [email protected] or by calling us on 0116 253 5657.
All the best,
Ashley
Thanks for the question
Our entry requirements to study on our BMus (Hons) Contemporary Music Performance course are that you achieve 64 UCAS points and pass an Audition stage where we assess your musical talent. We consider each student as an individual so don't feel that you have to have studied music formally e.g. at GCSE or Level 3 as it's based on your musical competency.
I hope that helps. If you have any other questions or need support in making your next steps, please do get in touch. You can reach our team either by emailing [email protected] or by calling us on 0116 253 5657.
All the best,
Ashley
i forgot to say for your courses can you focos on more than one thing that you are good at e.g. i write songs but i would poss wanna focusa on singing aswell
Original post by Echo Factory
Hi @KimJayneNoel,
Thanks for the question
Our entry requirements to study on our BMus (Hons) Contemporary Music Performance course are that you achieve 64 UCAS points and pass an Audition stage where we assess your musical talent. We consider each student as an individual so don't feel that you have to have studied music formally e.g. at GCSE or Level 3 as it's based on your musical competency.
I hope that helps. If you have any other questions or need support in making your next steps, please do get in touch. You can reach our team either by emailing [email protected] or by calling us on 0116 253 5657.
All the best,
Ashley
Thanks for the question
Our entry requirements to study on our BMus (Hons) Contemporary Music Performance course are that you achieve 64 UCAS points and pass an Audition stage where we assess your musical talent. We consider each student as an individual so don't feel that you have to have studied music formally e.g. at GCSE or Level 3 as it's based on your musical competency.
I hope that helps. If you have any other questions or need support in making your next steps, please do get in touch. You can reach our team either by emailing [email protected] or by calling us on 0116 253 5657.
All the best,
Ashley
Of course, @KimJayneNoel!
While you need to choose a 'lead instrument' to audition with (which helps us organise our tutors for your weekly 1-to-1 sessions), we highly encourage multi-instrumentalists to develop all aspects of their talent, so if you wanted to progress your vocal ability as well, we allow students to 'switch up' their focus.
In addition to your specialist 1-to-1 sessions however, we also host a weekly vocal lab for all Performance students and a Collaborative Music module that runs through both the First and Second Year. This module underpins our unique genre-based approach that centres around helping in you to develop your understanding and ability to play a variety of genres so that - when creating your own content - you can play with the authenticity, confidence and flair to really stand out from the crowd!
Hope that helps! Give us a call if you have any more questions about studying with us or launching your career in the music industry! We'd be more than happy to help.
All the best,
Ashley
While you need to choose a 'lead instrument' to audition with (which helps us organise our tutors for your weekly 1-to-1 sessions), we highly encourage multi-instrumentalists to develop all aspects of their talent, so if you wanted to progress your vocal ability as well, we allow students to 'switch up' their focus.
In addition to your specialist 1-to-1 sessions however, we also host a weekly vocal lab for all Performance students and a Collaborative Music module that runs through both the First and Second Year. This module underpins our unique genre-based approach that centres around helping in you to develop your understanding and ability to play a variety of genres so that - when creating your own content - you can play with the authenticity, confidence and flair to really stand out from the crowd!
Hope that helps! Give us a call if you have any more questions about studying with us or launching your career in the music industry! We'd be more than happy to help.
All the best,
Ashley
okn thanks for this because i might go into music if i cant do the uni course i want
Original post by Echo Factory
Of course, @KimJayneNoel!
While you need to choose a 'lead instrument' to audition with (which helps us organise our tutors for your weekly 1-to-1 sessions), we highly encourage multi-instrumentalists to develop all aspects of their talent, so if you wanted to progress your vocal ability as well, we allow students to 'switch up' their focus.
In addition to your specialist 1-to-1 sessions however, we also host a weekly vocal lab for all Performance students and a Collaborative Music module that runs through both the First and Second Year. This module underpins our unique genre-based approach that centres around helping in you to develop your understanding and ability to play a variety of genres so that - when creating your own content - you can play with the authenticity, confidence and flair to really stand out from the crowd!
Hope that helps! Give us a call if you have any more questions about studying with us or launching your career in the music industry! We'd be more than happy to help.
All the best,
Ashley
While you need to choose a 'lead instrument' to audition with (which helps us organise our tutors for your weekly 1-to-1 sessions), we highly encourage multi-instrumentalists to develop all aspects of their talent, so if you wanted to progress your vocal ability as well, we allow students to 'switch up' their focus.
In addition to your specialist 1-to-1 sessions however, we also host a weekly vocal lab for all Performance students and a Collaborative Music module that runs through both the First and Second Year. This module underpins our unique genre-based approach that centres around helping in you to develop your understanding and ability to play a variety of genres so that - when creating your own content - you can play with the authenticity, confidence and flair to really stand out from the crowd!
Hope that helps! Give us a call if you have any more questions about studying with us or launching your career in the music industry! We'd be more than happy to help.
All the best,
Ashley
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No problem, @KimJayneNoel!
Could I ask if there are any concerns you might have that are currently putting you off pursuing music at university or are you interested in another area of study?
Could I ask if there are any concerns you might have that are currently putting you off pursuing music at university or are you interested in another area of study?
erm well everybody around me don't know that i want to do music and that i write music, only the people on here, i don't have enough support, and ps they don't think i have a good voice, even though i think i have. im interested in history, however i found that the interest i have in music is more than the one i have for history
Original post by Echo Factory
No problem, @KimJayneNoel!
Could I ask if there are any concerns you might have that are currently putting you off pursuing music at university or are you interested in another area of study?
Could I ask if there are any concerns you might have that are currently putting you off pursuing music at university or are you interested in another area of study?
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