Yu-Gi-Oh! Society

There’s a lot to unpack here. I’m going to preface this by assuming you don’t play competitively, as if you did you wouldn’t be making that statement.

Firstly, power creep. If I took a perfect circle deck from 2007 and tried to use it 2019, I would be trounced. This does not mean that competitive Yugioh circa 2007 had no strategy. It simply means the game has sped up since then. The amount of strategy in the game is not inversely proportional to the speed of the game. Some formats are quite skill based and quite fast (Nekroz format comes to mind, as well as Zoo mirrors.) Some formats are very slow and skill based. (Goat Control). Others are very fast with little skill involved (dice roll formats like most of 2018 or spyral format), whilst others are very slow with little skill involved (the 2006 1 for 1 chaos formats were quite simplistic and unskilled, notoriously)

A slower game does not have less strategy, it just has a different dynamic. Goat control for instance, due to how slow it was encouraged skilful use of key 1 or 2 card combinations and careful use of 1 of key power cards such as BLS and Mirror Force.

Faster paced mirrors between modern combo decks emphasise a different facet of the game, namely the fact that you have access to basically your entire deck from turn 1 means you have a lot more instantaneous variables to consider, but since decks have stronger recovery plays the value of a single card in modern formats is lessened, this changes the dynamic of skilled play, but that’s all it is, a dynamic.

Modern yugioh takes more knowledge of steps to combos, but this results arguably in less skilled play in one sense because if you have a good mechanical memory you can get fairly far at locals assuming you win dice rolls.

That’s a straw man however and moder yugioh at the highest levels of play can be really really intricate in terms of the considerations. Both players being able to play what they want immediately requires you to have to laterally engage with many different facets of the game and have an awareness of resources, this immediacy is strategy.

Conversely, goat format values individual cards much more and so the emphasis is on long term planning and card advantage, the exponential effects of plays you make on turn 1 and what they might due in turn 20 must be considered.

Both take considerable amounts of skill at the top level.

The « historical decks » you’re referring to online are probably just 40badcards.dek being played by the No Xyz/No Pend/No Sync crowd, so you have a warped view of what older decks even looked like. The fact you bring up « banned cards till exodia » shows you really don’t have a grasp of what the competitive scene looked like pre The Duelist Genesis.

It’a extremely ignorant to equate older decks being unable to meet modern ones which have been aided by 20 years of power creep with the statement that all of competitive yugioh had no or very little strategy between the release of the Legend of Blue Eyes through Glad Beast format.

You’re flat out wrong here.

Arc v was one of my favs to see loved the story not digging vrains atm though

Agreed about powercreep but Im not a fan of the old style of play. Saying that, I do like having multiple plans and a balance of offence and defence.

I cant be asked purchasing cards irl but the decks I use online place emphasis on long term strategy vs short term (which is why my pendulum synchro deck trounces cyber dragons, skystriker and thunderdragon decks online...only to lose against guardragons and true king/dracos). My favourite deck isnt one of these cookie cutter strategy decks and is quite amusing to see people try and figure out what I am doing.

I lost interest around the time GX came out (got briefly interested in the game around the end of the original run of 5 ds but lost interest again till 2017). So no, I have no idea about old competitve scene. Older decks were good back in the day(1st ever deck was an oldschool kaiba starter and have played yugi evo starter + e hero decks before - heck i have 2 envoys of the beginning) but I honestly am not a fan of the old style.

niburu seems interesting if you can summon using your opponents monsters. the spell and trap are ok but wouldnt add them on any on my online decks tbh.

the exodia deck on the otherhand looks like otk material, particularly with my cyberse decks

These cards are hated by everyone I've seen talking about them so far, incredibly unfun.

Would like to post this soundtrack here for a while

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A proper OST for the final battle: it is thrilling, as if always matters and depends in one duel between good and bad. Nice!

What decks do others here play. Only do online myself but currently trying rock burning abyss. Love how burning abyss won't die at all.

built quite a few online and experimented with them:
pendulum magician synchro
pendulum magician guardragon
timetrick (timelord trickstar deck)
salad (salamangreat)
processlayer / cyberse hybrid
codetalker-oriented cyberse
skystrikers (which are lame btw - you play an mr3 duel and these cards are rubbish - mr4 tends to be better but essentially struggles against a few of the above decks)
dark magician / pendulum magician hybrid deck
quantal (i can never get this to work)
crystron - very intruiging but have n idea how to build this properly
majespecter

I mean skystrikers are unplayable MR3 because links aren't allowed. The deck is still very strong current format. I tried pendulum during azzathot format with RUM to make kali yuga which is a stronger azzathot. I once made *snnnffff* dark warrior orcust chaos danger thunder dragons. The most trif deck I could think of.

iv been wondering how to make a good orcustrated deck tbh. thunderdragons im not making as of yet but they do seem like they would go well with guardragons

Next 2 packs getting released in the OCG / TCG are ignition assault and eternity code. the former is introducing a few new archetypes, most notable of which is expected to be @Ignister, which can be described as a non-pendulum, cyberse version of D/D/D. Sadly, the true boss monster of this archetype, along with a rather interesting link 4 cyberse monster, will not be released till eternity code, along with a supposedly powerful new archetype.

Chances are, there will be a lot of @ignister builds once it comes out and dont be surprised to see Firewall Darkfluid get more play.

Regarding the true boss @ignister and link 4 cyberse, here are the anime details (which based on recent OCG releases might not change much):



In addition to @Ignister benefitting from these 2 monsters, I can also see code talker / knightmare / playmaker style decks benefitting massively from these 2 cards, with the top monster being great all around and the latter being used well in endgame scenarios, particularly if paired with crusadia avramax or co-linked with excode talker and honeybot. Also the latter's effect isnt once per turn which means in theory, you could destroy up to 14 of your opponents cards in the space of 3 turns

Oh damn I didn't know this thread existed.

I'm considering what deck I play at my locals worlds qualifiers qualifier thing lmao
I'm building pends atm but might finish building the salad deck I never really built or build striker now the deck's within my price range.

Really depends on the next banlist cause it's in January

Pendulums are too fragile imo.

Sadly ignister falls on its face like DDD but not because a broken deck came out soon after. The deck has very little in regards to going first options and is pretty much combo blind 2nd. IGAS will be more for buffing time thief which I'm a big annoyed they improved it with another infernity barrier. I'm hoping for eternity to deliver because recent and upcoming sets have not delivered well on decent archetypes minus improving support for others.

Also wouldn't compare ignister to DDD. DDD is an incredibly hard combo deck whereas ignister does a lot of activate ailand again several times.