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Have you come out to friends / family?

How do you respond on forms which don't have an option for non-binary?

And most importantly, which is the best game in the Heroes of Might and Magic / Might & Magic: Heroes franchise? :holmes:
Original post by AngryJellyfish
Have you come out to friends / family?

How do you respond on forms which don't have an option for non-binary?

And most importantly, which is the best game in the Heroes of Might and Magic / Might & Magic: Heroes franchise? :holmes:

I've come out to my mum, and a few friends, but my dads a little tricky ^^; I'm hoping to come out before college starts in September, so I can start there as my chosen name.

If it's a circle the option, I either circle both or add my own. If it has to be male or female, I tick female - especially if it's in a medical case, because the female anatomy is different from males so I figure it's probably more important? OR - I just go with how i feel. Roulette sounds fun!

I haven't really played them if i'm honest - sorry!
Do you play the sims 4? If so what do you think of the non-binary sim option?
Original post by Other_Owl
Do you play the sims 4? If so what do you think of the non-binary sim option?

I do play sims 4! And I mean, I personally love it because of my identity, and it gives other people more awareness in a way, and kids that may play it can start to see there is more than just the moulds they grew up with :>
Many thanks for the replies!

Original post by WanderStruck
I've come out to my mum, and a few friends, but my dads a little tricky ^^; I'm hoping to come out before college starts in September, so I can start there as my chosen name.


Good luck. :yep:

Original post by WanderStruck
If it's a circle the option, I either circle both or add my own. If it has to be male or female, I tick female - especially if it's in a medical case, because the female anatomy is different from males so I figure it's probably more important? OR - I just go with how i feel. Roulette sounds fun!


Flipping a coin has served me well in the past for unimportant online forms or surveys. On paper forms I always used to leave title blank, but am more likely to amend it with a third option as well these days. :colone:

Original post by WanderStruck
I haven't really played them if i'm honest - sorry!


:shakecane:
Original post by AngryJellyfish
Many thanks for the replies!



Good luck. :yep:



Flipping a coin has served me well in the past for unimportant online forms or surveys. On paper forms I always used to leave title blank, but am more likely to amend it with a third option as well these days. :colone:



:shakecane:

Thank you!
And flipping a coin is a great idea :biggrin:
Original post by HumbleBee_x
This is what I'm gonna write on the walls of my prison cell

You won’t have time to since I’ll be doing a prison break to get you out. :wink:
Original post by I'mPooPoo
You won’t have time to since I’ll be doing a prison break to get you out. :wink:

:medieval::wink:
Original post by HumbleBee_x
:medieval::wink:

Have to be stealthy though.:ninja:
Original post by WanderStruck
I'm 16, going on 17. I realised I was nonbinary 3-4 years ago (13 years old). For a long time before that, I was hyper-aware (?) of being called female, and it annoyed tf out of me but i didn't know why!

That's strange, because now I'm guessing you don't really mind if people suggest you have female traits (as from the quote below I can infer that you don't mind being called feminine terms). If that's true, as far as you're aware, why do you think you don't really mind now as opposed to who you were 3-4 years ago?
Original post by WanderStruck
1- I've described this a couple times, so I'll try to keep it short lol - it just clicked. I also have dysphoria, but i'm not male. I don't feel comfortable with my feminine attributes, either. And I get euphoria from being called masculine terms, or neutral terms (although i'm okay with feminine too)

2- For me, I think having gender dysphoria is a big part of identifying as a different gender (of course, idc if you want to identify and don't have it, it's just harder to believe). Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that makes it hard to live in your own body, because you dont see it as yours. I've had many breakdowns over my typically female attributes that I really don't like. And it isn't because they're inconvenient (such as periods) but because it isn't me. It's like you being called a female, and having female genitals your entire life while knowing you're a man if that makes sense?

Thank you for being respectful!! <3

That's very interesting.. So... do you think you see your body as your own now?

I'm going to assume you don't fully (because you said you have dysphoria). In that case, I've got a question. Doesn't the fact that you are in your body now mean that it in fact is you? Every human individual is different, therefore, aren't you just you at the end of the day?

Maybe I'm being naive here, because plenty of people in the world don't like their looks, and a certain fraction of that actually go out of their way to change their bodies. Like if someone has a physical defect that must be removed at birth, you'd think that the child would appreciate it being removed than it being left. Though... that's not really that similar to identifying.. eh, I've lost my train of thought. Oh yeah - if what you have is actually a physical defect, then I can understand, with appreciation of social conditioning, why you felt this way at your female body parts. But if what you have is simply a product of nature, then maybe it's meant to be? On the other hand, I suppose one could argue that everything is a product of nature... I don't know.
Original post by WanderStruck
2 - thats fair! I respect that :>

3 - they made female toilets gender neutral and kept male the same? Thats defeating the pint isnt it?

4 - I mean in highschool, maybe year 10 ? But I agree with same-sex childrens books, at least being the maximum. I wasn't thinking about gender or sexuality in primary, I just liked girls and boys but didn't know it wasn't straight or whatever, idk - at that age it's important to just play and learn imo

5 - I agree with that, yeah/

No problem! And it was a good conversation, thank you for being respectful! :biggrin:

3 - The best way forward is to simply experiment. Whatever happens happens, and there's not much we can do about it - so it's best to simply run a small and controlled experiment. Having a neutral toilet seems the best to me. But I also think society must not associate stigma to LGBT people - and I think there's been a good push in that direction - but there are forces pushing against that too. I guess we'll see what happens.

4 - What do you mean by "same-sex" books? I like how you describe how when we were young we didn't really care about that kind of stuff.
Original post by WanderStruck
1- I'd say somewhere in the middle, honestly. It is a different gender, same as male and female can be on the same line yet be different genders - and I know some people who use nonbinary as being both male AND female, as opposed to neither! so yeah I think so!

2- Puberty blockers are a yes, I WISH I knew they existed back then. Physically transitioning? N o. I fully disagree. My mindset has changed so much in one year, let alone a whole childhood! They may make a choice they'll regret. Socially transitioning? Yes. It should be accepted for children to come out as their preferred gender in school, they're doing no harm to anyone and they can be themselves! Changing a name is reversible, as with pronouns.

1 - if you are both male and female, doesn't that mean you are simply in the half. Is that an incorrect way of looking at it or...?

2 - What's a puberty blocker? That sounds kinda like some serious business...
Thanks for sharing your time to answer these questions.

Original post by WanderStruck
It's just a feeling. It's the same as someone calling you the opposite sex your entire life, it's uncomfortable and frustrating I guess? For a long time I didn't know why, but its a lot easier to manage now that I do!

I can empathise with this. If it's any comfort, whatever happened isn't anyone's fault (and I'm sure you don't blame anyone); people are socialised and they respond to stimuli accordingly - from birth. Almost as fast as one judges someone else's character (voluntarily or not), humans judge other people's genders purely based on appearance. The people that would mistakenly refer to you as female harboured no ill will (and I already know you know this). The people who would not refer to you as you would refer to them (if they had been in your situation) simply lack understanding or empathy. Thus, this really is a learning opportunity for everyone, as far as I can tell. And so, I really appreciate your time explaining this to me. I'm not really all that clued in on LGBT-related matters.

Original post by WanderStruck
Ah, this is a misconception. Being transgender isn't a mental illness. Being transgender comes with gender dysphoria though, and in a lot of cases it's 'cured' by transitioning and being accepted as your gender! I do have dysphoria, on top of depression and anxiety, which may play hand in hand.

Did you accept your body now?

How do you know you have depression and anxiety for sure?
Original post by WanderStruck
I love linked horizon! (AOT music haha, I was a huge AOT nerd in year 9) Right now, it's between Cavetown and Unlike Pluto!

Awesome!
Original post by I'mPooPoo
Have to be stealthy though.:ninja:

I'll be patiently waiting :flutter:
Original post by HumbleBee_x
I'll be patiently waiting :flutter:

Excellent.:thumbsup:
I'm honestly not sure. I guess its because we're a minority, and have been oppressed/are still oppressed in many areas, and the left side is known for wanting equality.
Original post by WanderStruck
I do play sims 4! And I mean, I personally love it because of my identity, and it gives other people more awareness in a way, and kids that may play it can start to see there is more than just the moulds they grew up with :>


Do you find stuff packs or game packs a rip off?
Original post by Other_Owl
Do you find stuff packs or game packs a rip off?

Yeah, I think so, but it doesn't stop me form getting them haha
do you use neo pronouns (xe/xir, for example)? What are your thoughts on them?
Original post by WanderStruck
Yeah, I think so, but it doesn't stop me form getting them haha


Do you use mods? I do.
If you're referring to the fact that transgender people apparently 'reinforce gender roles' - its BS. Honestly, I don't care what anybody believes but the fact that someone wants to be themselves, and be their identity is reinforcing some agenda is just dumb. You can be trans male and dress feminine, trans female and dress masculine or nonbinary and dress whatever tf. You can be a bloody attack helicopter for all I care, and if anything thats reinforcing gender roles less lmao. I think some people use us to push some sort of narrative that people might take at face value if that makes any sense. But, bottom line, you do you and feminists cant change that

-I ramble oops-
Original post by mouldypeaches
do you use neo pronouns (xe/xir, for example)? What are your thoughts on them?

I don't, and I personally think they're unneeded, but it someone uses them I'll respect that and address them as such. We only have one life, no point spending it uncomfortable or making others uncomfortable!

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