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feeling overwhelmed and a bit sad, advice?

So this is my second week of uni. I've been here (Netherlands) for almost a month now. My family is so many miles away, I'll only see them at Christmas. I estimate about 8 hours of homework I have to do tomorrow because its due Friday. The reading is so much, and then I have to take notes and it just takes forever.

I feel like nothing good has happened in the past week and there's nothing good to look forward to. The past week has been bad. Yesterday I got fined by the police because it was evening and my backlight of the cycle wasn't working. Today I just f*cked up my choir audition. I haven't been singing for 3 months and I'm usually a soprano but today I couldn't hit the high notes at all, my voice cracked every time I tried. It was so embarrassing and I really wish I'd practiced a bit before. Its just that I'm living in a student guesthouse and walls are thin. I really want to get in the choir, he gave me the sense that he knew I was nervous and he kinda reassured me but I don't know if he's going to accept me or not. It was so awful because I usually can sing fine.

And what about friends. I miss my high school and my friends and the easy life. Everyone is nice here, but I'm still trying to find the close friends, the real ones. I've kind of found a small crew, but I feel like I'm putting too much effort to be included in plans. They have a groupchat without me, and they make plans and only if I'm physically next to them and overhear them discussing the plans will they invite me to come along, but they wouldn't text me about it if they didn't see me you know? They're friendly and everything but... I don't know. I think maybe I'm just not so interesting, or I don't know how to make a conversation interesting.

I don't really know what to do. I can't talk to anyone in person about my problems. I've texted my friends back home but texting isn't the same. I feel stressed and a bit frustrated and "what am I doing with my life" often runs through my head. Any advice is helpful or if you've gone through a similar experience, please feel free to share. ❤️ Sorry for the rant.
Original post by pinesandapples2001
So this is my second week of uni. I've been here (Netherlands) for almost a month now. My family is so many miles away, I'll only see them at Christmas. I estimate about 8 hours of homework I have to do tomorrow because its due Friday. The reading is so much, and then I have to take notes and it just takes forever.

I feel like nothing good has happened in the past week and there's nothing good to look forward to. The past week has been bad. Yesterday I got fined by the police because it was evening and my backlight of the cycle wasn't working. Today I just f*cked up my choir audition. I haven't been singing for 3 months and I'm usually a soprano but today I couldn't hit the high notes at all, my voice cracked every time I tried. It was so embarrassing and I really wish I'd practiced a bit before. Its just that I'm living in a student guesthouse and walls are thin. I really want to get in the choir, he gave me the sense that he knew I was nervous and he kinda reassured me but I don't know if he's going to accept me or not. It was so awful because I usually can sing fine.

And what about friends. I miss my high school and my friends and the easy life. Everyone is nice here, but I'm still trying to find the close friends, the real ones. I've kind of found a small crew, but I feel like I'm putting too much effort to be included in plans. They have a groupchat without me, and they make plans and only if I'm physically next to them and overhear them discussing the plans will they invite me to come along, but they wouldn't text me about it if they didn't see me you know? They're friendly and everything but... I don't know. I think maybe I'm just not so interesting, or I don't know how to make a conversation interesting.

I don't really know what to do. I can't talk to anyone in person about my problems. I've texted my friends back home but texting isn't the same. I feel stressed and a bit frustrated and "what am I doing with my life" often runs through my head. Any advice is helpful or if you've gone through a similar experience, please feel free to share. ❤️ Sorry for the rant.



Sorry cant give you a full answer at the moment.

How long are you there for and presumably you chose to go?

You need to be determined and strong.

Do something nice for yourself each day and take care of your MH.

1.Use skype to talk to people at home,. but sometimes it can make it worse
2. Do make effort to make friends either with dutch students or internationals.
3. Tell the choirmaster you would be happy to re- audition you were just rusty.
4. Bike thing happens just be more careful.
5. Stop trying so hard, just be chilled and determined you will cope, make the effort and things should fall into place.
6. Box sets and good food or books. Paddington 1 and 23 I think are cheery no matter how miserable or fragile.
7. Join some societies.Meet people smile and be sociable, friendships take time. Hide in your room and you wont meet new people.
8. Remind yourself why you chose to be there, the good experiences you want and how you will get them.
9. Start establishing routines so you get familiar with your new life.
10. Exercise, go for walks, practice the language.
https://www.savethestudent.org/international-students/tips-to-deal-with-home-sickness.html
https://www.goabroad.com/articles/how-to-stop-feeling-homesick
https://www.gooverseas.com/blog/ways-reduce-homesickness-abroad
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/applying-for-university/university-life/what-to-do-when-you-feel-homesick

https://www.nopanic.org.uk/no-panic-youth-hub/
https://www.anxietyuk.org.uk/get-help/
Depression and anxiety
https://depression.org.nz/is-it-depression-anxiety/self-test/
https://www.counselling.cam.ac.uk/selfhelp/selfleafpdf/depression
https://www.counselling.cam.ac.uk/selfhelp/selfleafl.pdf/loneliness/at_download/file
https://www.counselling.cam.ac.uk/selfhelp/selfleafpdf/anxipan
https://www.mind.org.uk/media/1993364/how-to-manage-stress_2015.pdf
https://www.mind.org.uk/media/34696345/depression-2019-web-pdf.pdf
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You will be fine. I think you're just not used to everything being so easy since high school days. But am positive you will pull through. If you need someone to talk to or rant at you can always message people on this fourm who are happy to help. Have a great day (: ^.^ \0/
Original post by 999tigger
Sorry cant give you a full answer at the moment.

How long are you there for and presumably you chose to go?

You need to be determined and strong.

Do something nice for yourself each day and take care of your MH.

1.Use skype to talk to people at home,. but sometimes it can make it worse
2. Do make effort to make friends either with dutch students or internationals.
3. Tell the choirmaster you would be happy to re- audition you were just rusty.
4. Bike thing happens just be more careful.
5. Stop trying so hard, just be chilled and determined you will cope, make the effort and things should fall into place.
6. Box sets and good food or books. Paddington 1 and 23 I think are cheery no matter how miserable or fragile.
7. Join some societies.Meet people smile and be sociable, friendships take time. Hide in your room and you wont meet new people.
8. Remind yourself why you chose to be there, the good experiences you want and how you will get them.
9. Start establishing routines so you get familiar with your new life.
10. Exercise, go for walks, practice the language.
https://www.savethestudent.org/international-students/tips-to-deal-with-home-sickness.html
https://www.goabroad.com/articles/how-to-stop-feeling-homesick
https://www.gooverseas.com/blog/ways-reduce-homesickness-abroad
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/applying-for-university/university-life/what-to-do-when-you-feel-homesick

https://www.nopanic.org.uk/no-panic-youth-hub/
https://www.anxietyuk.org.uk/get-help/
Depression and anxiety
https://depression.org.nz/is-it-depression-anxiety/self-test/
https://www.counselling.cam.ac.uk/selfhelp/selfleafpdf/depression
https://www.counselling.cam.ac.uk/selfhelp/selfleafl.pdf/loneliness/at_download/file
https://www.counselling.cam.ac.uk/selfhelp/selfleafpdf/anxipan
https://www.mind.org.uk/media/1993364/how-to-manage-stress_2015.pdf
https://www.mind.org.uk/media/34696345/depression-2019-web-pdf.pdf


Thank you so much, what you said and all the links are super helpful ❤️
Original post by pinesandapples2001
Thank you so much, what you said and all the links are super helpful ❤️

If it gets bad drop me a message. Some people suffer a lot more than others especially if they havent been away from home or arent the most confident. A few knockbacks and everything seems pants. It is common and especially in a new country, some people cant overcome it.

Make a list of why you are there and things you want to achieve. You must have thought long and hard about going, so remind yourself why you are there. It isnt some terrible mistake. If it isnt as you imagined then the only person to change it is you. Make a list of small targets you can achieve, exploring, cooking, joining societies, meeting new people, getting a good mark, organising a night out, meeting more people. Push your boundaries a bit. Also have a crisis plan so when you get a setback, respond with something positive or remind yourself of a good thing or read something comforting or inspirational. It is up to you to make the nest of it. As you build your own life, then make sure there are nice things in it and rather than run home, tough it out, but keep building resilience and comfort for yourself. It is a matter of being determined and not running away or hiding, but trying your best to make things happen. If you get into choir then that will be a good thing. If worried go and ask for another audition and explain to the choir master its important and you just need a bit of practice. You can maximise your chances of a good outcome not by feeling defeated or hiding, but seeking out those new experiences and not being put off by knockbacks. Do it for yourself.
Don't underestimate what a big step you've made by going to the Netherlands. I've just gone into my second year at the University of Amsterdam and I still struggle with cultural differences, feeling like I lack social opportunities because of the language barrier, the intense workload and the lack of holidays (sometimes it's about powering through the semesters, sometimes you should be clear with yourself that it's okay and healthy to give yourself a holiday mid-term).

I remember being in your position, feeling lonely and distressed because the change was big. I lost the feeling of relating to any (British) impressions I had of "the uni experience" and couldn't connect to what my British friends were going through in the first term. I also moved straight after high school and missed the Friday night rituals and comfort of knowing what home meant to me. Being in the Netherlands means you don't have Freshers week, joining societies (they aren't really a thing in the NL, let alone ones that run in english) or even accommodation to fall back on to make easy connections (I don't know about where you are, but at least in Amsterdam, the student accommodation is often in studios and is not social in the way Halls are. I didn't even enjoy fitting into an international crowd: many people on my course were quite arrogant (being used to living internationally, whereas I was excited and constantly surprised by the whole thing), plus many international groups or events were too vague for me to want to spend time doing (I wanted to do societies based on my interests, not just being united with people by our "foreignness" - you can only talk about drinking, clubbing, airfares, language differences and compare high school systems so many times). I still struggle with the social side because it's just so much harder to connect with people when you are abroad. It wasn't for a lack of trying, I tried everything (all the groups/events/activities available and would never let a possible social connection go to waste) but in the end I realised I was just exhausting myself, projecting a version of myself I didn't really like, and not realising that I had to reframe my version of the experience and my feelings of loneliness in order to escape it.
Original post by Anonymous
Don't underestimate what a big step you've made by going to the Netherlands. I've just gone into my second year at the University of Amsterdam and I still struggle with cultural differences, feeling like I lack social opportunities because of the language barrier, the intense workload and the lack of holidays (sometimes it's about powering through the semesters, sometimes you should be clear with yourself that it's okay and healthy to give yourself a holiday mid-term).

I remember being in your position, feeling lonely and distressed because the change was big. I lost the feeling of relating to any (British) impressions I had of "the uni experience" and couldn't connect to what my British friends were going through in the first term. I also moved straight after high school and missed the Friday night rituals and comfort of knowing what home meant to me. Being in the Netherlands means you don't have Freshers week, joining societies (they aren't really a thing in the NL, let alone ones that run in english) or even accommodation to fall back on to make easy connections (I don't know about where you are, but at least in Amsterdam, the student accommodation is often in studios and is not social in the way Halls are. I didn't even enjoy fitting into an international crowd: many people on my course were quite arrogant (being used to living internationally, whereas I was excited and constantly surprised by the whole thing), plus many international groups or events were too vague for me to want to spend time doing (I wanted to do societies based on my interests, not just being united with people by our "foreignness" - you can only talk about drinking, clubbing, airfares, language differences and compare high school systems so many times). I still struggle with the social side because it's just so much harder to connect with people when you are abroad. It wasn't for a lack of trying, I tried everything (all the groups/events/activities available and would never let a possible social connection go to waste) but in the end I realised I was just exhausting myself, projecting a version of myself I didn't really like, and not realising that I had to reframe my version of the experience and my feelings of loneliness in order to escape it.

There is an expectation for you to love everything and assimilate easily, but this is simply not true. You have to start seeing your experience as essentially different and act accordingly to this, just because it is. I know there is so much pressure in "trying to make the best of it," but this will inevitably lead to you missing a trick when it comes to your self-development and enjoyment of the experiences that do happen. Don't see a social occasion as just one step towards a party invite, which will lead (hopefully) to the friendship you need), but evaluate whether you actually enjoyed yourself.

If this sounds familiar, I would just advise you to (paradoxically) try to chill out and try to see that the things you want to happen (friendship, comfort, enjoyment) come over a period of time. See this whole experience not as uni, but as part of one of those personal developments you make over your whole life. Shed the expectations to find friends or "your group" and see the reality that it is more healthy and realistic to live as people do during the rest of their lives: enjoying the uniqueness of the set of circumstances that you are already in. As lots of other people have said in the thread: retune yourself to the reasons why you decided to move there. Then do a reality check: were they unachievable expectations? (like I will make find the work easy, and not get homesick) and accept that you might have been mistaken. Then look at the expectations you had which you are able to indulge (it's so pretty here, I can bike everywhere, there's so much to explore when abroad) and try to focus on these to enjoy them as much as possible in order to help your mind balance.
Original post by Anonymous
There is an expectation for you to love everything and assimilate easily, but this is simply not true. You have to start seeing your experience as essentially different and act accordingly to this, just because it is. I know there is so much pressure in "trying to make the best of it," but this will inevitably lead to you missing a trick when it comes to your self-development and enjoyment of the experiences that do happen. Don't see a social occasion as just one step towards a party invite, which will lead (hopefully) to the friendship you need), but evaluate whether you actually enjoyed yourself.

If this sounds familiar, I would just advise you to (paradoxically) try to chill out and try to see that the things you want to happen (friendship, comfort, enjoyment) come over a period of time. See this whole experience not as uni, but as part of one of those personal developments you make over your whole life. Shed the expectations to find friends or "your group" and see the reality that it is more healthy and realistic to live as people do during the rest of their lives: enjoying the uniqueness of the set of circumstances that you are already in. As lots of other people have said in the thread: retune yourself to the reasons why you decided to move there. Then do a reality check: were they unachievable expectations? (like I will make find the work easy, and not get homesick) and accept that you might have been mistaken. Then look at the expectations you had which you are able to indulge (it's so pretty here, I can bike everywhere, there's so much to explore when abroad) and try to focus on these to enjoy them as much as possible in order to help your mind balance.

And remember to not forget yourself in all of this. Take care of your mental health and start developing ways to learn more about you and what you really want in and out of your current experience. Try not to make it your aim to project a good version of yourself onto people, in order to help them be your friends. Instead, spend time communicating with yourself about what sort of person you are. Be confident that you are interesting and good at making conversation. (I'm sure you are... in fact, it may even be them that are not interesting! Don't expect to click with everyone or force it when it is there). It's okay to be lonely, so recognise when you're acting desperate and remember that that's not the best version of you. (This one is hard, because when you're in need of comfort, you can make excuses for behaviour which in the long term is not beneficial, like making efforts with people who aren't right for you).

It sounds like you did the right thing doing the choir audition, as it's clearly going down the road of doing things that you love. As above, try and get another shot. If that doesn't work out, don't see it as the end of everything. As I said, don't pin all of your hopes of sociality, comfort, integration, enjoyment, on one thing. Opportunities may seem sparse (and in some ways for an international student, they will be) but they are also random, so you want to be in the best frame of mind to embrace them. Don't feel bad also about the choices that you don't make. You don't have to go to every borrel that's offered. You don't have to do all the expat things that are expected simply because you are there (for example, I've decided not to learn Dutch, literally because I know how much time it takes, and I don't have that time on top of uni. Yes, it will limit my integration and social opportunities, but I'm there for uni and the other bits of my life).
Original post by Anonymous
And remember to not forget yourself in all of this. Take care of your mental health and start developing ways to learn more about you and what you really want in and out of your current experience. Try not to make it your aim to project a good version of yourself onto people, in order to help them be your friends. Instead, spend time communicating with yourself about what sort of person you are. Be confident that you are interesting and good at making conversation. (I'm sure you are... in fact, it may even be them that are not interesting! Don't expect to click with everyone or force it when it is there). It's okay to be lonely, so recognise when you're acting desperate and remember that that's not the best version of you. (This one is hard, because when you're in need of comfort, you can make excuses for behaviour which in the long term is not beneficial, like making efforts with people who aren't right for you).

It sounds like you did the right thing doing the choir audition, as it's clearly going down the road of doing things that you love. As above, try and get another shot. If that doesn't work out, don't see it as the end of everything. As I said, don't pin all of your hopes of sociality, comfort, integration, enjoyment, on one thing. Opportunities may seem sparse (and in some ways for an international student, they will be) but they are also random, so you want to be in the best frame of mind to embrace them. Don't feel bad also about the choices that you don't make. You don't have to go to every borrel that's offered. You don't have to do all the expat things that are expected simply because you are there (for example, I've decided not to learn Dutch, literally because I know how much time it takes, and I don't have that time on top of uni. Yes, it will limit my integration and social opportunities, but I'm there for uni and the other bits of my life).

Hopefully some of this was useful to you. I've documented quite a lot of my own experience here, simply because your situation sounds almost exactly like where I was this time last year, and these are some of the realisations I've had in the past year. I searched endlessly for advice and comfort from people, but in the end just had to learn it the hard way. I hope at least that you'll be able to relax a little more and enjoy yourself!!!

It's a really tough experience moving abroad and lots of people underestimate it. But you're allowed to congratulate yourself every so often. In the long run you'll see what an amazing person you've become:-)) message me if you would like to talk more
also sorry i had to put this in like 4 posts because it was actually huge (which i really didn't expect hahah)
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Original post by Anonymous
Hopefully some of this was useful to you. I've documented quite a lot of my own experience here, simply because your situation sounds almost exactly like where I was this time last year, and these are some of the realisations I've had in the past year. I searched endlessly for advice and comfort from people, but in the end just had to learn it the hard way. I hope at least that you'll be able to relax a little more and enjoy yourself!!!

It's a really tough experience moving abroad and lots of people underestimate it. But you're allowed to congratulate yourself every so often. In the long run you'll see what an amazing person you've become:-)) message me if you would like to talk more
also sorry i had to put this in like 4 posts because it was actually huge (which i really didn't expect hahah)

Cannot rep you but a very useful insight into student life abroad so well done for making the effort.
Original post by Anonymous
Hopefully some of this was useful to you. I've documented quite a lot of my own experience here, simply because your situation sounds almost exactly like where I was this time last year, and these are some of the realisations I've had in the past year. I searched endlessly for advice and comfort from people, but in the end just had to learn it the hard way. I hope at least that you'll be able to relax a little more and enjoy yourself!!!

It's a really tough experience moving abroad and lots of people underestimate it. But you're allowed to congratulate yourself every so often. In the long run you'll see what an amazing person you've become:-)) message me if you would like to talk more
also sorry i had to put this in like 4 posts because it was actually huge (which i really didn't expect hahah)


Thank you for this. Its just so hard for me to see the bright sidex especially now. I'm under a lot of stress from school because the schoolwork is crazy and confusing. And I'm also currently sick and taking antibiotics 3 times a day which gives me awful side effects like nausea and headaches which means i can't study effectively. I'm taking probiotics and paracetamol but that doesn't seem to always work.
I find myself having a breakdown so often, I call my family and friend crying because being sick alone is the absolute worstx you have to push yourself out of bed, do things yourself etc. I keep remembering the times I would be at home and how nice it felt to have my mum take care of me and the fact that I'm never getting that easy life back scares the hell out of me.
I have some friends now, but they're not so close that I can ask anything of them you know? I mean there is this one girl who offered to bring me food and stuff from the pharmacy when I asked, but.. It's not the same. I don't have the same quality of friendship as I did in high school.

My mental health is seriously suffering. I feel like I'm stuck in a bad situation I don't want to be in but there's no better alternative. I have to stick it out - what other choice do I have? And that really scares me, that I'm stuck in a bad section of life and I have to get through it, no matter what - there are no alternatives. I understand that maybe things will get better... But what if they don't?? And also, even if I know the future will be better, I'm still stuck in the present suffering miserably.

Also I didn't manage to get into the choir which was disappointing.

Yes, you're exactly right my expectations were that I'll stay on top of my workload and won't get homesick. I don't often get homesick anyway when I travelled out of my home country but now its always on my mind. And it makes me sad that the best life I lived was when I was in high school, friendsx family, and I'm never gonna get that time back.
To be honest one of my main reasons to move was that everyone in my class was going out and I didn't want to be stuck in my town alone (it's only 2000 people). I think I expected a somewhat similar life to my hometown one (good friends, staying on top of the workload, having time to do fun stuff) but I didn't realise the stress was too much and I definitely didn't see my sickness coming and did not imagine that I'd have to cope alone.

The one somewhat comfort I found is that one of my friends is going through homesickness tooz and she revealed to me that she misses home and has been crying about it so I'm not the only one in that aspect. We were talking a but about how uni was not what we expected.

Anyway, it's a super tough time. I don't know what I have to look forward to. Right now I'm looking forward to the 1 week break I'll have starting 19th October but until then there are exams and papers and sickness to deal with. And what happens after that one week break?? Does the cycle just start all over again?
Sorry you are having such a hard time .Was there a reason why you chose to study abroad rather than in the UK?Just a small point there is no point in taking the probiotics until after you finish the antibiotics as they will be cancelled out.
Original post by Scotney
Sorry you are having such a hard time .Was there a reason why you chose to study abroad rather than in the UK?Just a small point there is no point in taking the probiotics until after you finish the antibiotics as they will be cancelled out.


I'm actually not from the UK haha. I'm not Indian but I lived in India my whole life, in an international community. I didn't want to study in the country, I wanted to meet more international people so I decided to come to the Netherlands.

Ohh really?? Are you sure? (about the probiotics). Wouldn't the pharmacist have told that information?
Original post by pinesandapples2001
I'm actually not from the UK haha. I'm not Indian but I lived in India my whole life, in an international community. I didn't want to study in the country, I wanted to meet more international people so I decided to come to the Netherlands.

Ohh really?? Are you sure? (about the probiotics). Wouldn't the pharmacist have told that information?

Yes it is true pharmacist may have assumed you would be taking them after your antibiotics which kill off all the bacteria in the body and probiotics are used to restore the good bacteria after a course of antibiotics. Lots of people in UK are feeling the same way after leaving home so you are not unusual in that,

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