Muslims, do you go to the pub with your work colleagues?

@QE2 Please restore some sanity to this thread, so many horrid isoc cranks spewing venom trying to derail. Thx

Going to the pub hugely increases her chances of consuming alcohol,

Speaking to non-Muslims is not a problem. In fact the Quran, it says Christians are the closest friends to Muslims. But that does not mean going to the pub because she will have an increased chance of actually consuming the substance which causes humans to lose their brain and is severely forbidden in the religion of Islam.

Because you're not supposed to stand around shopping centres looking for people to leap on.
It's not even the right approach for starters.

Those white women definately were not dressed like muslims..

It looked like they were dressed for a night out imo, but i suppose it could have been an event..

Perhaps they were Muslims in kuffar fancy dress?

SavaGE... [on so many levels]


@-Quava- do you have a responce/comeback?

Giving dawah is a duty upon Muslims. Muhammad used to preach in public to disbelievers.

It's just the usual cherry-picking stuff. Muslims who want to look like they are pious and truly following the word of Allah and example of Muhammad often use this issue to virtue-signal the strength of their deen, while ignoring or rejecting other parts of Islamic doctrine (Christians are no different).
I suspect that there is often quite a bit of using it as justification for why they never get asked.

Why do they always target me and try to convert me?
please ask him what sorts of people him and his friends prefer to target.

I've developed a sixth sense for detecting them. They often move in a certain way, and seem to be dressed smartly. but there's something perculiar about the way they move that seperates them from other people dressed smartly.

I saw some whilst i was sitting down and was suspicious immediately. then i saw them start speaking to people. then i saw one of them had a bible so KNEW for sure they were mormons. i got up and quickly walked in the other direction. 2 seconds later one of them approaches me from the side!

He must of actually ran me down to get to me that quick because he was a talking with someone else a bit away when i started walking away from him. this was a busy shopping centre. he could have picked anyone but he zero's in on me and catches up with me. i've always had problems with religious people making bee lines for me. it's annoying.

black religious people are the worst for this i find.

A muslim has never tried to convert me though. I wonder why?

Did the group who approached you have american accents or ask if you were from the usa?

You want me to respond to a childish remark from a grown man? I can't even stoop to that level of immaturity even if I tried and I really don't have the time for Islamaphobic jokes.

The shopping centre is a place if fitna and standing there approaching non-mahram women today is not good for a man.
Giving street dawah and allowing the rignt people to come and listen is good because you can control where your sight is at but to approach women nowadays would not be good hence why you don't see it that often.

Hi, I’m a hijabi and my classmates are planning to meet up at a pub and I’m the only muslim/hijabi in my class and I’m afraid if I don’t go that I’ll be forever alienated from these groups.I can resist alcohol, it doesn’t tempt me anyway and I really want to go just so that we get to know each other well and they don’t avoid me because I’m backward or whatever 🙃All I want to know is, since it’s a pub and it’s in the evening, I don’t know what to do about hijab.I don’t want to attract attention by being the only hijabi in a pub, it’s bad as well as bringing down the image of Muslim women No one is going to know if I’m drinking or no.I know I shouldn’t be going in the first place but I don’t want to say no to the first meeting.After a few of probably stop. But can someone pls tell me how should I go? With hijab seems so bad and I’ve never really gone out without hijab before, I mean I’ve atleast worn a beanie but never without anything. I’m nervous, could someone pls help me out

Muslims are not rejecting and cherry picking.

(Original post by @-Quava-)
Muslims are not rejecting and cherry picking.
You're a grown man and the majority of Muslim TSRians on here are young and have a lot to learn about Islam still.
You come here to argue against every young Muslim teen to make them look like they're being hypocritical or they're ignoring their own religious teaches teachings when the matter of fact is that they're so young they don't even have a lot of knowledge.

But you do you. Continue targeting young Muslims and Christians to temporarily fix this little emotional issue you have surrounding religion. If it makes you feel better, why not?

It's wonderful that you haven't been scared away from TSR by all the trolls, pervs and other creeps.
This message is a bit long, sorry.

All religious sects, leaders and individuals choose from a huge amount of scriptural quotes/teachings according to their intentions.
Over the millennia religious teachings has been used for a variety of purposes, to promote a variety of personal agendas- good, bad and evil.
Charity, education, forgiveness, redemption, love, compassion, mercy = for people who value these positive elements.
Political power, money, violence, hate, punishment, separatism and supremacy = for those who want to harness these less pleasant elements.

All elements are present within religion, reflected within both history and society- as ripe for abuse today as they were centuries ago.
Every religion under the sun- the abrahamic trio, hinduism, sikhism, scientology, mormonism, raelianism, jehovah's witnesses.
We must learn the lessons of history to avoid reliving some of the darkest events in history.
So many truly evil cults abusing religion and the faith of vulnerable members for purposes that would horrify you.

You know the powerful emotions that religion can stir up, the appeal of a united and welcoming religious community that preaches traditional righteousness as the sole path to an afterlife of eternal bliss.
You also know the history of this country.
Involvement in papal ordered violence against other religions, what Henry VIII did to end his marriage, how he used religion to torture/murder his critics, the brutal mass murders in the name of religion ordered by his daughter that earned her the nickname "Bloody Mary", Oliver Cromwell's lunatic puritanism, the Gunpowder Plot by terrorists to destroy parliament by means of mass murder and the witch-hunts that saw thousands of women accused of witchcraft then drowned or burned at the stake.
All warnings from history in relation to religious absolutism, the enforcement of fundamentalist religion and the use of both by sinister/deranged individuals.

If you read english language translations of all the abrahamic religious texts, I guarantee that you will find hundreds of quotes and brutal descriptions that will have you feeling absolutely nauseous.
Centuries of papal pronouncements and vatican decrees that are even worse.

Catholicism teaches papal infallibility (the pope is never wrong), that the pope is God's representation on earth and his orders must be obeyed by everyone.
There are always an unpleasant few who want to resurrect the religious fanaticism that dominated life during the ancient and medieval era.
Some within catholic congregations still openly celebrate ancient mass murders and instances of torture as "the one true religion punishing unbelievers".
My mother's family were textbook examples of this, my maternal grandmother has been doing it for the last 60 years.
Others preach an identical messages more subtly under the guise of "Christophobia" or "Generation Identity".
Their vision is practically identical to that of the evil doers of centuries ago who used religion as their weapon during the medieval era.

Do you understand now why so many of the worst dark age and medieval atrocities occurred?
It is vital it is that the history, theology and real life potential for the abuse of each are shared.
People with the knowledge must speak out to ensure that such a situation is never allowed to occur again.
Television channels like God TV & TBN UK have other plans; they have invested tens of millions into pushing a toxic religious agenda waging ideological war upon both religious multiculturalism and modern life.
The consequences for human life and society are far too serious to maintain the age old convenient silence.
Particularly in these times of widespread aggression and instability.

Many clearly do, to some extent.
I only argue with people who come on here and make claims or statements. If they don't know what they are talking about, perhaps they shouldn't come onto a religious debate forum and tell others who are better informed that they are "ignorant", "arrogant", to "educate themselves", etc.
They're literally a bunch of kids. How is a grown man taking them so seriously?

I really don't see what age has to do with it. Aisha was only 9 but y'all claim she was mentally a mature adult.
Y'all? So you're American now?
I heard she was in her late teens. Now this is a new one.
I'm also a personal believer that once you have the ability to reproduce, you're an adult. Obviously, this society and law disagrees and that's absolutely fine, I respect that.

I don't "target" anyone. I simply respond to others.
Hmmm.... respond? When did I initiate conservation with you to respond here?

When people recover from cancer, or kick drugs, or survive some avoidable trauma, of have been victims of some scam, etc, they often campaign to try and prevent others suffering in the same way.
The real question is, why wouldn't you?
Trust me I would. I'd go out and do something crazy, raise some money and contribute fininacially.... as I already do. If I can't do that, I will volunteer my time to help those in need.... as I already do.
I probably wouldn't sit and waste my entire day arguing with a bunch of children that are going to walk away and completely forget every point I made.

If someone enjoys doing something, how is doing it negatively affecting their quality of life?
People do really strange things and yes they enjoy them but unfortunately it does negatively affect the quality of their life but they're unaware.

It always makes me laugh when people who devote literally their entire life to obsessing over following the rituals of ancient Middle Eastern superstition, who worry about avoiding ordinary, everyday things, whose every waking hour is consumed by a desire to gain some celestial reward or avoid punishment, accuse others of being obsessed or having odd lives. lol!
LOOOOOOOOOL.
It is so strange how people have escaped from this so called-prison of religion to be free and then spend every waking hour obsessing over it and being consumed by a desire to to gain some self-satisfaction of putting religious people down and then having the audacity to say religious people have odd lives.
LMAO man, come on, MOVE ON!