Rory Stewart leaves the Tories

An election would risk a Johnson majority though. The current situation, however ludicrous, at least prevents a hard Brexit.

I think a general election would be a real test for Corbyn, yes - and he did well in the last one, admittedly against a much more amateurish and off-beam campaign than Johnson and Cummings are likely to run - but I don't think it works well in the current situation to keep saying 'we'll wait until there's a deal or no deal' - the Corbyn line - as there will almost certainly continue to be limbo under another extension before too long. How long is Corbyn proposing we go without a government?

1. I dont know about Burton, but I am not alone in supporting UK’s exit from the EU. Some of my friends want that to happen, but we want a decent deal. I agree that we are in the minority and other Labour members think we are closet Tories. I debated a Labour friend who wants to become an MP in the future and she accused me of propping up Johnson with my support of Brexit. I vehemently reject that crass accusation.

2. Blarite politics is small ‘c’ conservatism. Blair was a liar who disowned his Party IMHO to dine with the enemies. I was in favour of a unity candidate like Chuka Umunna, but he showed his disdain for the whole Party, which annoyed me.

3. That is the error that people like you make. They underestimate Corbyn because they live in the bubbles and engage with people like yourself. Tbe country is aching and in pain, we need radical and deep societal changes to years of unfairness and declining prosperity. People claimed that Theresa May would end Corbyn’s leadership, but then he secured 30 more seats. Don't underestimate Corbyn and his support.

Blair was a zealot neoliberal globalist and always was. He is still a member of the Labour Party along with mandelson, Adonis etc. Chucka snd other centrists (2/3 of the party) are just more of the same

I don’t underestimate Corbyn and actually respect his tenacity. It was glorious seeing him humiliate Theresa May and people like Dan Hodges in 2017.

There is also admittedly a small chance he could of course win but as I say he’s getting on and will be replaced with another centrist who will destroy the Brexit project.

Oh yea, let's not risk letting the will of the people actually happen. #Democracy

I think a general election would be a real test for Corbyn, yes - and he did well in the last one, admittedly against a much more amateurish and off-beam campaign than Johnson and Cummings are likely to run - but I don't think it works well in the current situation to keep saying 'we'll wait until there's a deal or no deal' - the Corbyn line - as there will almost certainly continue to be limbo under another extension before too long. How long is Corbyn proposing we go without a government?

Sorry, who actually voted for no deal? I don't remember that being on the ballot paper, and I distinctly remember being told it would be the easiest deal in history by the leave campaigns

He's going to try to use the EU's inevitable rejection of his sloppy half-baked proposal as FINAL PROOF that the EU ARE NASTY and take that back to the House and argue that therefore he can't be bound by it as the EU won't play ball.

Cumming's cunning plans seem to become more and more pathetically transparent as time goes on.

We voted for LEAVE which if you read the government leaflet they sent out said leaving the single market and customs union.

Sorry, but you are a remain voter: you do not get to decide what it is we voted for. You don't have to accept it or like it - by all means vote for Lib Dem’s to reverse it. That is your democratic right. But don’t infringe on ours..

Completely irrelevant to what I said. Smack specified blocking a no deal brexit, which Burton called denying the will of the people. Since the vote at no point specified the details of leaving - whether it would be to EFTA terms, a comprehensive deal, no deal etc, and no deal is not the only version possible, blocking no deal is not blocking leaving, and since we don't know what type of departure is wanted, since that was never asked, it's not blocking "the will of the people".

Virtually everyone saying this is a remain voter. It is clearly a cynical move done in bad faith.

Eh, to deal in good faith the other party needs to be one you can trust, but beyond that anything that blocks the stochastic terrorist Farage from his goals is good, even more so when no deal would be uniquely destructive to this country. Still remains the case that no deal is not "the will of the people"

I ticked the rep box, but I don't agree with all of that - I think the Green Party, like other parties, attracts a mixed bag - there are some very clever people in it with clear thinking and also some total muppets.

Please desist in future from publicly agreeing with me as it brings my status down a notch or two. (joke)

I think a general election would be a real test for Corbyn, yes - and he did well in the last one, admittedly against a much more amateurish and off-beam campaign than Johnson and Cummings are likely to run - but I don't think it works well in the current situation to keep saying 'we'll wait until there's a deal or no deal' - the Corbyn line - as there will almost certainly continue to be limbo under another extension before too long. How long is Corbyn proposing we go without a government?

Sorry, who actually voted for no deal? I don't remember that being on the ballot paper, and I distinctly remember being told it would be the easiest deal in history by the leave campaigns

We voted for LEAVE which if you read the government leaflet they sent out said leaving the single market and customs union.

Sorry, but you are a remain voter: you do not get to decide what it is we voted for. You don't have to accept it or like it - by all means vote for Lib Dem’s to reverse it. That is your democratic right. But don’t infringe on ours..

blocks the stochastic terrorist Farage from his goals is good,

@Wired_1800 @Burton Bridge

Ah 2 labour brexiteers, interesting.

1: not that you have a plethora of choice but how can you justify supporting a party whose bulk of MPs and Membership are not only pro remain and would view you as morally suspect but also would take us back into the EU given half a chance?

2: When Corbyn croaks it, isn’t (and what it represents) dead as a movement? I can see a ‘centre-left’ ‘unity’ candidate like Lucy Powell or someone go full Blairite..

3: whilst I am sympathetic to Corbyn’s anti war policies and anti austerity, let’s be honest they haven’t got a hope in hell.

Oh yea, let's not risk letting the will of the people actually happen. #Democracy