UK pathetically weak when dealing with the US

Alas this is hardly news. Our 'leaders' have always been not but cuckolds to Washington.

The killing of the young motorcyclist in Oxfordshire by the wife of a CIA operative on a US airbase, who then fled to America with the connivance of the US Embassy and government, has highlighted yet again just how weak and helpless Britain is in dealing with the superpower.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7556133/Donald-Trump-REFUSES-hand-American-diplomats-wife-killed-teenager-British-authorities.html

To take just a few points:

- Diplomatic immunity is often waived by host countries in such cases, including by Britain. The US simply refuses.

- Her status is unclear and she very likely wasn't covered by immunity, something that could have been tested in a British court.

- Dominic Raab, the Tory Foreign Secretary, was only reluctantly granted a conversation about it with the US Secretary of State, who then flatly refused to help. Raab has been rude and cold towards the family of the deceased and has parroted the American line on the immunity, without challenge.

How on earth can the UK hope to gain preferential trade terms post-Brexit with a country that behaves in this way? We are like rabbits caught in the headlights.

You think we're the only ones?

This is an age old problem with the US. It has nothing to do with the strength or otherwise of another country.

Oh bore off.

Don't you dare use the death of a young man to further your own petty political point scoring, you abhorrent excuse for a human.

You don't give a flying **** about the guy, you just want to point and laugh.

Delete this thread. You're exposing yourself as nothing more than a tabloid bully.

I do care, I've read all about it and I really feel for his parents.

I'm pointing out the absurdity of thinking we can approach the US as partners in trade on fair terms, when this arrogant domination psychology is in fact the norm.

Playing politics with this is childish, rude and deeply disrespectful. You should know better.

The killing of the young motorcyclist in Oxfordshire by the wife of a CIA operative on a US airbase, who then fled to America with the connivance of the US Embassy and government, has highlighted yet again just how weak and helpless Britain is in dealing with the superpower.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7556133/Donald-Trump-REFUSES-hand-American-diplomats-wife-killed-teenager-British-authorities.html

To take just a few points:

- Diplomatic immunity is often waived by host countries in such cases, including by Britain. The US simply refuses.

- Her status is unclear and she very likely wasn't covered by immunity, something that could have been tested in a British court.

- Dominic Raab, the Tory Foreign Secretary, was only reluctantly granted a conversation about it with the US Secretary of State, who then flatly refused to help. Raab has been rude and cold towards the family of the deceased and has parroted the American line on the immunity, without challenge.

How on earth can the UK hope to gain preferential trade terms post-Brexit with a country that behaves in this way? We are like rabbits caught in the headlights.

Oh bore off.

Don't you dare use the death of a young man to further your own petty political point scoring, you abhorrent excuse for a human.

You don't give a flying **** about the guy, you just want to point and laugh.

Delete this thread. You're exposing yourself as nothing more than a tabloid bully.

1. It isnt often waived, but can be.
2. Unfortunately this is international law and an ally plus a superpower. If we tried her in absence and the immunity was found not to be valid, then it wouldnt achieve anything. US will simply refuse and then withdraw various bits of co operation which will damage the country.
3. I think it is wrong, but US is looking at wider aspects for protection of its diplomats all over the world. It does not wish to set a precedence.
4. What do you expect the UK to do? Declare war? Eject or imprison US citizens? Impose sanctions?
5. Are you a UK national?

I expect the UK government to act like a government and stop bending the knee and bowing and scraping and licking up crumbs when an issue as serious as this comes up.

Empty words. A meaningless statement.

What should they actually do? Invade the US and kidnap the citizen?

You're really good at *****ing about other people's lack of decisions, how about you come up with an idea for a change?

Let’s not use the death of somebody to further our own political aims.

It's worth noting that in the EU, this would of course be no issue at all. The woman would be under arrest and facing whatever charges she fled from.

Utter *******s. Simply untrue. The actions of the US would be identical and if you really think differently you need your head looking at.

Utter *******s. Simply untrue. The actions of the US would be identical and if you really think differently you need your head looking at.

There's no way an EU diplomatically protected person working in the UK would not have their immunity waived after such an incident as part of EU confraternity.

Here are the details for a typical recent year. There were no EU diplomats committing offences here where it was not waived.
https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-statement/Commons/2018-12-18/HCWS1197

Then you're talking about something different. Your original statement made it appear like you believed a US citizen in the EU would be treated differently.