Would never vote Tory, but not liking Labour either?

You will probably not see those things as an issue but I do so that is why I wish for us to leave the EU but to incorrectly shout racist is a weak argument that does not address the point.

Don't bother voting.

Your vote is worthless if you don't vote labour or con and libdem has no chance of winning your constituency. You'd have better luck making a difference going outside no. 10 and screaming like a lunatic.

You're essentially wasting your own time and that of the people counting your ballot, because the voting system in this country is broken to protect the interests of tories and labour.

How lovely and condenseding. Please let's be factual, civil and respectful to eachother, tolerance is a great thing you dont appear to be showing, let's start again shall we?

Who do you deam to be a racist and how am I defending them?


So you believe that a crass and provocative poster was trying to get you removed from your own country? How so?

Can you detail the UKIP policy that was going to be implemented to negatively effect your life?

Can you tell me what country UKIP wish to deport you too, if this is your country how can you be sent home?

The problem with illiberal bigotry like you have shown towards me

Also it's highly offensive to every single person who has genuinely suffered prejudice. What shouting racist where racism does not exist, the result actually makes real racism more likely.

Whilst I do not support them I would point out that if voters, back in the days when Labour won most of Scotland's seats, and before that Conservatives won most, had followed your approach then the SNP would not win seats these days-the idea that politics is a static position is plainly incorrect but if everyone runs around saying x can never win or y can ever win and you all believe them then frankly you are fulfilling that prediction.

I would much prefer you all saw the light and this time voted Lib Dem, but frankly follow what you believe in, whatever that may be, Monster Raving to Brexit Party, do not get swayed by x poll or y poll above all other considerations, if you do then you are not changing society you are following the herd and other people caused that swing that unseated AA and heralded gains for the XX party, not you, you just sat back safely believing that outcomes are carved into the stone beforehand and you had no say.

On the basis of your argument there would today be no Scottish National Party, No Labour Party, No Green Party.............

Was talking about england.

You are not changing society by voting for a party who has no chance at all of winning your constituency. UKIP got 2 million votes but because of the broken system they didn't get the representation their voters deserved. This had very little actual impact made. Those voters might as well have just stayed home. There is no hope of breaking the two party system with FPTP unless the other two parties fail absolutely phenomenally, an effect you'd hope brexit would have. There needs to be extent of PR.

How lovely and condenseding. Please let's be factual, civil and respectful to eachother, tolerance is a great thing you dont appear to be showing, let's start again shall we?

Who do you deam to be a racist and how am I defending them?


So you believe that a crass and provocative poster was trying to get you removed from your own country? How so?

Can you detail the UKIP policy that was going to be implemented to negatively effect your life?

Can you tell me what country UKIP wish to deport you too, if this is your country how can you be sent home?

I think I'm leaning towards either Lib Dem or Green! I have a question - been so wrapped up in my personal life and disillusionised with politics in the face of Brexit, Lib Dem doesn't have that leader anymore that is against gay marriage right?!

Whilst I do not support them I would point out that if voters, back in the days when Labour won most of Scotland's seats, and before that Conservatives won most, had followed your approach then the SNP would not win seats these days-the idea that politics is a static position is plainly incorrect but if everyone runs around saying x can never win or y can ever win and you all believe them then frankly you are fulfilling that prediction.

I would much prefer you all saw the light and this time voted Lib Dem, but frankly follow what you believe in, whatever that may be, Monster Raving to Brexit Party, do not get swayed by x poll or y poll above all other considerations, if you do then you are not changing society you are following the herd and other people caused that swing that unseated AA and heralded gains for the XX party, not you, you just sat back safely believing that outcomes are carved into the stone beforehand and you had no say.

On the basis of your argument there would today be no Scottish National Party, No Labour Party, No Green Party.............

Okay well that's my vote then!

So you're defending UKIP now. Why am I not surprised?

And now you accuse a young BME person of "bigotry" because they object to the prejudice displayed by other right-wing xenophobes.
You really couldn't make it up!
I bet you think that positive discrimination is racist. The longer you post on here, the more your true colours show.

The classic response of a racist.
And I guess you are the one to decide whether someone else has suffered racism or not, by using your own right-wing criteria.

Was talking about england.

You are not changing society by voting for a party who has no chance at all of winning your constituency. UKIP got 2 million votes but because of the broken system they didn't get the representation their voters deserved. This had very little actual impact made. Those voters might as well have just stayed home. There is no hope of breaking the two party system with FPTP unless the other two parties fail absolutely phenomenally, an effect you'd hope brexit would have. There needs to be extent of PR.

But you are making change mate. You made the UKIP vote comparison, you are correct that UKIP vote share in 2015 was not healthy, when you look at representation their voters were rewarded with anyway. However let's look at the effect of UKIP vote. Look at the way that UKIP vote changed the political landscape, without it Britian would now be a very different place. Wouldn't it?

Was it a wasted vote?

Just noticed this, I believe that it is me who is being deemed a racist because I had the temerity to vote for a party that wanted to leave the EU.
I'm afraid this particular poster's view is what has become ingrained into society these days, any kind of dissenting view of what is apparently deemed to be the right opinion is racist, it is quite worrying really as the youth used to be the ones that wanted to break the status quo but now it appears rebelliousness has been outlawed.
Even the "socialists" these days love the corporate heavy, neoliberal EU.

My point exactly, it's an example of how a protest vote can actually achieve something.
And that is all it was, I am actually more left wing in my politics, maybe not as far left leaning as I used to be but that is where my anti EU stance comes from, just like the likes of Skinner, Benn and erm oh yeah Corbyn.