McDonalds staff strike for £15p/h + guaranteed hours

it makes me sad seeing people complain mcdonalds workers are asking for the living wage, and saying they don't deserve it, purely because they got paid less. Don't you want to see other people make money? you can ask for the living wage too. It doesnt affect you if mcdonalds people are payed more, except honestly theyll probably give you better customer service because theyre happier and can actually feed their families lol. mcdonalds workers arent campaigning for £15 an hour because they think theyre better than you, its because they want to be able to afford to live, and you deserve that right too, instead of fighting them why not join them and try and get £15 an hour too? youre helping no one by complaining

Let's be fair, while working there is a low skilled job, it's hard work and you have to deal with absolutely dreadful customers daily. Like f*** would I work there for £10 an hour. Plus it's a huge global chain making humongous profits, they can easily afford it.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/11/im-joining-the-mcdonalds-strike-to-show-my-son-we-deserve-better-than-poverty-11071395/

Guaranteed hours - sure.

But £15 p/h? The worker in the article feels "trapped" at getting £9.47 p/h, which is already more than the going rate for baristas, entry-level retail etc.

Don't McDonalds etc. get tonnes of applicants too? I'm all for it if every other job gets a fair wage bump to reflect their comparitive staff turnover and skills required.

it makes me sad seeing people complain mcdonalds workers are asking for the living wage, and saying they don't deserve it, purely because they got paid less. Don't you want to see other people make money? you can ask for the living wage too. It doesnt affect you if mcdonalds people are payed more, except honestly theyll probably give you better customer service because theyre happier and can actually feed their families lol. mcdonalds workers arent campaigning for £15 an hour because they think theyre better than you, its because they want to be able to afford to live, and you deserve that right too, instead of fighting them why not join them and try and get £15 an hour too? youre helping no one by complaining

Absolutely agree with no zero hour contracts, better working conditions and better treatment of staff in general but £15 an hour is ridiculous

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/11/im-joining-the-mcdonalds-strike-to-show-my-son-we-deserve-better-than-poverty-11071395/

Guaranteed hours - sure.

But £15 p/h? The worker in the article feels "trapped" at getting £9.47 p/h, which is already more than the going rate for baristas, entry-level retail etc.

Don't McDonalds etc. get tonnes of applicants too? I'm all for it if every other job gets a fair wage bump to reflect their comparitive staff turnover and skills required.

I presume they're going high so they can be negotiated down to the real figure they want, but it's not getting much sympathy.


It's a job. If you feel the need to take the piss out of people who work for a living, then you've got issues the rest of the world aren't interested in.

Bet you'd tell someone to "get a job" if they were unemployed.

Yeah, customers are horrendous but you get that in every line of work.

I'm all for it if every other job gets a fair wage bump to reflect their comparitive staff turnover and skills required.

- The whole point of them "not deserving" it, as you put it but no one else has, is because there are other jobs which require more skills and/or have fewer applicants or able people to do it and/or are simply harder that should be paid more than working at McDonalds which, while busy, doesn't require qualifications and is in high demand from applicants. It's about knowing your worth.

- No one else can "join them" because... we don't work there... so I don't think McDonalds will notice us striking...

Which is why they should unionise and learn from those Macdonald's workers.

How else do you think "none skilled" workers increase thier wage?

That isn't how it the labour market works. There are loads of jobs that are easier and more furfilling than a lot of low paid work which pay a lot more. There is little natural justice involved in economic distribution. "Knowing your worth" is just pychological class struggle that is meant to pacify workers. You are "worth" whatever you can get away with. If these workers increase thier leverage and bargining power by organising they increase the value of thier labour.

You can have solidaraity strikes where workers in the same sector or totally different areas go on strike as well. The ultimate version of this is a general strike. You don't even need to have labour that can be withdrawn, anyone can do stuff like block a road.

The question for any employer is can they get more than £15 an hours worth of work out of them and make whatever they consider a worthwhile profit on top of £15.

The alternative will be more mechanisation.
Lots of economists point to how if they're not careful, increasing the minimum wage can lead to the workers earning less.

People who say things like this are usually the first to moan when eastern european migrants come and 'steal all our jobs' aka the low paid jobs that noone wants to do.

Asking for high wage is stupid. They are uneducated and don't know what to ask for.

That isn't how it the labour market works. There are loads of jobs that are easier and more furfilling than a lot of low paid work which pay a lot more. There is little natural justice involved in economic distribution. "Knowing your worth" is just pychological class struggle that is meant to pacify workers. You are "worth" whatever you can get away with. If these workers increase thier leverage and bargining power by organising they increase the value of thier labour.

You can have solidaraity strikes where workers in the same sector or totally different areas go on strike as well. The ultimate version of this is a general strike. You don't even need to have labour that can be withdrawn, anyone can do stuff like block a road