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I'm currently in Year 12 studying Biology, Chemistry and Psychology and really want to become a doctor. I've one research on applying to med school in both the UK and Ireland and was wondering if it were possible to do an apprenticeship in medicine or an apprenticeship which I can later transition into studying medicine/become a doctor. This has to do with the fact that I'm not too sure whether or not I will be successful in the UCAT, BMAT and HPAT especially combined with my GCSE grades, which are pretty low for someone who wants to become a doctor, I do not want to hinder my chance of becomng a doctor
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lol medicine has no apprenticeships mate theres plans on bringing apprenticeships for optometry. But a lot of optometrists are pissed off by the idea because its just going to devalue the profession and also lead to cheap labour for all those commercial stores
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(Original post by frann.xo7)
I'm currently in Year 12 studying Biology, Chemistry and Psychology and really want to become a doctor. I've one research on applying to med school in both the UK and Ireland and was wondering if it were possible to do an apprenticeship in medicine or an apprenticeship which I can later transition into studying medicine/become a doctor. This has to do with the fact that I'm not too sure whether or not I will be successful in the UCAT, BMAT and HPAT especially combined with my GCSE grades, which are pretty low for someone who wants to become a doctor, I do not want to hinder my chance of becomng a doctor
Here's a list for entry requirements for all UK medical schools: https://www.medschools.ac.uk/media/2...al-schools.pdf

As mentioned, you can't be a medical doctor without going through medical school and there are no apprenticeship schemes.
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(Original post by frann.xo7)
I'm currently in Year 12 studying Biology, Chemistry and Psychology and really want to become a doctor. I've one research on applying to med school in both the UK and Ireland and was wondering if it were possible to do an apprenticeship in medicine or an apprenticeship which I can later transition into studying medicine/become a doctor. This has to do with the fact that I'm not too sure whether or not I will be successful in the UCAT, BMAT and HPAT especially combined with my GCSE grades, which are pretty low for someone who wants to become a doctor, I do not want to hinder my chance of becomng a doctor
I’m in the same situation as u 😭 I want to be a doctor and I want to do medicine but I got grades 5-7 and distinction* at gcse , not the best 😕
I’m doing biology geography and psychology , I should have chosen chemistry instead of geography when I knew I was going down the medicine route but I know that I can get higher grades in geography , I’m going to try and do a foundation year , hoping they accept my gcse grades and A level grades , once the foundation year is done I hope to do straight medicine in a top Russell group university
I say do a foundation year , don’t let ur gcses define u
I agree most doctors are grade 9 students and A*/A students at A levels
But don’t let the high standards put u off
Just take another route , it may be longer adding a extra year but In the end it will be worth it
PM me if u want to talk more
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I’m in the same situation as u 😭 I want to be a doctor and I want to do medicine but I got grades 5-7 and distinction* at gcse , not the best 😕
I’m doing biology geography and psychology , I should have chosen chemistry instead of geography when I knew I was going down the medicine route but I know that I can get higher grades in geography , I’m going to try and do a foundation year , hoping they accept my gcse grades and A level grades , once the foundation year is done I hope to do straight medicine in a top Russell group university
I say do a foundation year , don’t let ur gcses define u
I agree most doctors are grade 9 students and A*/A students at A levels
But don’t let the high standards put u off
Just take another route , it may be longer adding a extra year but In the end it will be worth it
PM me if u want to talk more
“Top Russell group university”

It literally does not matter what medical school you go to and all are regulated by the GMC and hence the quality of teaching is amazing everywhere.
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There are many things to correct in your post...

(Original post by Alina2019)
I’m in the same situation as u 😭 I want to be a doctor and I want to do medicine but I got grades 5-7 and distinction* at gcse , not the best 😕
As long as you apply strategically, it doesn't matter!! Some med schools e.g. Cambridge(!) have no GCSE requirements at all.

I’m doing biology geography and psychology , I should have chosen chemistry instead of biology when I knew I was going down the medicine route but I know that I can get higher grades in geography ,
Again, choose med schools which do not mandatorily requires you to do Chemistry. There are at least 18 med schools who only need Biology.

I’m going to try and do a foundation year , hoping they accept my gcse grades and A level grades , once the foundation year is done
Medicine with Foundation Year / Gateway Year etc. have strict criteria. They are not an open-for-all for everyone who's not chosen the right A-Levels.

I hope to do straight medicine in a top Russell group university
:argh: There are not top or bottom medical schools!! Keele is not worse than Cambridge, and Anglia Ruskin is not worse than Oxford!! The competition ratio (*application to place) is higher for many non-RG med schools.

Remember, RG is a research alliance. Most med schools don't do much research - hence it doesn't matter!! All medical degrees are the same.

I say do a foundation year , don’t let ur gcses define u
As above. Foundation Year are not open to all.

I agree most doctors are grade 9 students and A*/A students at A levels
Not true about the first part. As I said, some med schools have no GCSE requirements - however places like Oxford requires a perfect set of GCSEs (their applicants have average 10.4 A*s).

Second part is true - most med school offers are AAA or above. I think only Kent and Medway (1500 applicants for 100 places!!) and Buckingham (private) have AAB as their standard offers.

(Original post by Sososnake)
“Top Russell group university”

It literally does not matter what medical school you go to and all are regulated by the GMC and hence the quality of teaching is amazing everywhere.
Thank you!
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“Top Russell group university”

It literally does not matter what medical school you go to and all are regulated by the GMC and hence the quality of teaching is amazing everywhere.
I feel attacked 😖
Sorry I just live Nottinghamshire so having a gd uni is a advantage
and I also typed this on the bus and didn’t read anything bk 🤣
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There are many things to correct in your post...

Thank you!
I looked up medical schools which require only 4s at gcse and above and accept biology on its own
And I’m trying to stay close to home
I’m willing to travel to the city next door if it’s like a 30/45 min train journey
And I found Sheffield
Sheffield also has BBB minimum requirements
I researched this ^ after I posted
And the only reason me and some of my Friends were considering a foundation year ( freinds who have chosen 3 sciences) is because we know we won’t get the predicted grades AA.. A or B
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I looked up medical schools which require only 4s at gcse and above and accept biology on its own
And I’m trying to stay close to home
I’m willing to travel to the city next door if it’s like a 30/45 min train journey
And I found Sheffield
Sheffield also has BBB minimum requirements
I researched this ^ after I posted
And the only reason me and some of my Friends ( who have chosen 3 sciences) is because we know we won’t get the predicted grades AA.. A or B
Well done for researching. Remember, medical school offers are so precious that most people are happy with just one, anywhere!

You'll have to travel as a junior doctor anyway, so even if you have to go to the opposite side of the country for uni - as long as you have a medicine offer, you should accept it! Most students will not be from the city anyway.

My advice is still to apply strategically to wherever med school will take you (your stats), and if your stats means you are eligible to several - go visit them.

Being from Nottingham - you have the advantage of sitting in the middle of the country, even travelling to London will only take > 1.5 hours by train.

And remember, you can only apply to Medicine with a Foundation Year if you meet the criteria!
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Well done for researching. Remember, medical school offers are so precious that most people are happy with just one, anywhere!

You'll have to travel as a junior doctor anyway, so even if you have to go to the opposite side of the country for uni - as long as you have a medicine offer, you should accept it! Most students will not be from the city anyway.

My advice is still to apply strategically to wherever med school will take you (your stats), and if your stats means you are eligible to several - go visit them.

Being from Nottingham - you have the advantage of sitting in the middle of the country, even travelling to London will only take > 1.5 hours by train.

And remember, you can only apply to Medicine with a Foundation Year if you meet the criteria!
Thank you x for ur advice
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Can I have a quick reply pls
When is foundation yr viable to someone
What is the criteria
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Can I have a quick reply pls
When is foundation yr viable to someone
What is the criteria
Read https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=6022314 and click into all the Foundation Year and Gateway Year courses, then click on the entry requirements in the first post.

I spent loads of time compiling them!!
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I'm currently in Year 12 studying Biology, Chemistry and Psychology and really want to become a doctor. I've one research on applying to med school in both the UK and Ireland and was wondering if it were possible to do an apprenticeship in medicine or an apprenticeship which I can later transition into studying medicine/become a doctor. This has to do with the fact that I'm not too sure whether or not I will be successful in the UCAT, BMAT and HPAT especially combined with my GCSE grades, which are pretty low for someone who wants to become a doctor, I do not want to hinder my chance of becomng a doctor
You definitely can't do an apprenticeship in medicine - this isn't the 17th century.

If your GCSEs aren't your strong point then you can apply to medical schools that aren't "GCSE heavy". You can also check if you're eligible for any widening access programmes. Check the link ecolier posted.

Re entrance exams: at the end of the day medicine is filled with exams which continue all the way into specialty training, so you will need to get used to attempting exams. With sufficient preparation there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do well in these exams, but ultimately you do need to give it a go
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No - medicine apprenticeships do not exist.

It's very silly of you to limit yourself by saying "I don't think I'll do well in x, y and z which I haven't even given a go". Obviously no one applying to do the entrance exams knows if they will be successful - you can only gauge how you're doing during the exam and when you get your results.

There are universities which prefer entrance exam results and a-levels (or equivalent qualifications) much more over GCSEs. I would research these universities - apply strategically.
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Can I have a quick reply pls
When is foundation yr viable to someone
What is the criteria
A Foundation Year is generally for people who have AAA at A level in non-science subjects. Gateway years are for people with lower grades including sciences but require widening participation flags as they are designed to help those who may find it difficult to access a medical degree via the standard route, so eg have been in care, live in a disadvantaged area, are the first generation to attend uni, etc etc
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