I've noticed there has been barely any parliamentary activity. No idea why DoH, Home Office and DCMS.... ect couldn't have brought forward legislation while Cabinet Office/DExEU and mebby DIT got on with brexit.

Reply 29

Quady

Original post by ColinDent

Fair enough, that would be your choice.

We will see. Seems Johnson might not agree with having a legal vote on the issue.

Reply 30

username4969948

It's a tokenistic gesture done for the easy headlines.

Judging by this thread, Brexit supporters are falling for it.

Reply 31

ColinDent

Original post by Kitten in boots

It's a tokenistic gesture done for the easy headlines.

Judging by this thread, Brexit supporters are falling for it.

Is it though? Remainers such as yourself like to think that but in reality a mainly remain supporting parliament has been pushing back the leaving date, we no longer have that.

Reply 32

ColinDent

Original post by SHallowvale

Personally? Not really, I've only highlighted to you that this amendment/law is useless... as had been the previous deadlines.

As I've said to Kitten in boots though it's a very different parliament now.

Reply 33

username1799249

Original post by ColinDent

So it seems to be that there will be an amendment to the Withdrawal Agreement that will ensure our exit by the end of next year.
Thoughts?

Its a stroke of genius actually. A year is not long enough to negociate a deal and putting hard Brexit back on the tail (which would be electorial suicide) gives Boris the perfect excuse to conceed major concessions to Europe.

The thing we keep forgetting is that the only thing Boris cares about is Boris so he will only do things that work for him. I am beginning to think he isn't quite the Brexiteer we thought.

I still remember that night when he couldn't decide which side to campaign for. The question boiled down to which would be best for him? This issue at stake was irrelivant.

Reply 34

SHallowvale

Original post by ColinDent

As I've said to Kitten in boots though it's a very different parliament now.

Uh, sure? The people who've moved the deadline this time can do so again.

Have you considered the possibility that this won't speed up the negotiating process and will result in deadlock come a years time?

Reply 35

ColinDent

Original post by ByEeek

If that's the thought that keeps you happy then that's great, but prepare yourself for some disappointment next year if we don't have a good deal in place.
As it happens I wouldn't mind a small extension but only if a deal is very close, if not then we should just leave.

Reply 36

ColinDent

Original post by SHallowvale

Who would move it?

Reply 37

SHallowvale

Original post by ColinDent

Who would move it?

...the Conservatives themselves, together with the support of the opposition?

I'm fairly confident that there's enough Conservatives out there who don't really want a no deal.

Reply 38

ColinDent

Original post by SHallowvale

...the Conservatives themselves, together with the support of the opposition?

I'm fairly confident that there's enough Conservatives out there who don't really want a no deal.

I don't think there are, I'd say 10-20 max, and then there are still some Labour MP's and the DUP who would prefer that option.

Reply 39

SHallowvale

Original post by ColinDent

I don't think there are, I'd say 10-20 max, and then there are still some Labour MP's and the DUP who would prefer that option.

I think even Johnson himself would vote to extend the deadline if a no deal was a real threat. I don't believe he's been genuine in supporting Brexit at all costs.