Worth working anymore? - Tories mandate to make work pay

You really are an ignorant scrote.

UC for an adult is
Single claimant aged under 25: £251.77 per month.
Single claimant aged 25 or over: £317.82 per month.

Average salary in uk is is £28,677 after tax that means £1,931 per month.

What do you think it is easiest to survive on?
UK unemployment rate according to ONS is at record lows.

So ons.gov.uk is not a source?
The telegraph that reports on the dwp own report from 2013 that now archived is not a source?
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/ad-hoc-statistical-analysis-2013-quarter-2
No doubt you are laughing from behind your very large benefit cheque funded by us fools that work.

What people forget is that benefits are tax free and so even more generous than originally thought so a cap of 26k which is supposed to be average working wage is totally false as cap of 26k which is tax free is really around the same as a wage of 40k gross which is insanely high.

Why isnt the benefit cap around 15k or even less? Given e.g their housing is rent free in Central London, free transport etc etc is it any wonder they have no interest in working and happy to cling onto the generous welfare cheque instead? Whereas working people struggle to pay bills the biggest decision this huge population group have to make is which sky package to get.

While no one should be forced to starve ect. as a result of benefits the fact of the matter is no one in this country does. Also you have gone with the fundamental principle of socialism, blame the rich!

You forget what about tax credits even though they dont pay any tax the paradox! Housing benefits, child benefit, free prescriptions and the plethora of other hand outs that are dished out easily. There was a reason the benefit cap was set at 26k the fact there are so many families who were above this large tax free sum given to them with zero effort apart from form filling shows that the cap is way too high to begin with!

Come on boris sort this you have the mandate from the people now to force this lazy underclass into employment they have a choice work or starve - simple

What you fail to realise is the super rich will leave the country easily so you have a choice of take what they give now which is more than the average welfare claimant contributes i.e zero or they leave the UK and contribute zilch then who will fund the benefits buffet the average person here is so used to!

You didn’t see the pictures of Stephen Smith when he was moved from ESA to JSA then?

You are saying it is fine for people to starve, or be on the streets, or die because of poverty, but if one rich man is a little bit less rich it's ridiculous?

Stop vilifying the poor. People like you are the reason this country is in the deplorable state it is in.

You are saying it is fine for people to starve, or be on the streets, or die because of poverty, but if one rich man is a little bit less rich it's ridiculous?

Stop vilifying the poor. People like you are the reason this country is in the deplorable state it is in.

Disagree Boris has a mandate now with his landslide victory to crush the culture of welfare and laze that has infested this country for decades. Labour promised the millions who are non-contributors unlimited welfare look where that got them!

You forget what about tax credits even though they dont pay any tax the paradox! Housing benefits, child benefit, free prescriptions and the plethora of other hand outs that are dished out easily. There was a reason the benefit cap was set at 26k the fact there are so many families who were above this large tax free sum given to them with zero effort apart from form filling shows that the cap is way too high to begin with!

Come on boris sort this you have the mandate from the people now to force this lazy underclass into employment they have a choice work or starve - simple

(Original post by PQ)I’ll give you a hand.

Your “source” is explained in detail here. It’s a source for a benefit that no longer exists (Incapacity Benefit) using data selecting one condition listed when a claimant first submitted a claim. And most importantly it’s using numbers of claimants from 2010/11...ie before austerity was implemented and all IB claimants were transferred onto ESA or UC.
https://fullfact.org/news/how-many-have-claimed-benefits-acne-more-decade/

People have died because their benefits have been wrongly stripped from them. An older gentleman near us froze to death last winter because his heating credit was revoked. A relative of mine has a daughter with downs, and the daughter is dating a man with very, very severe short term memory loss. (It is so bad that you might introduce yourself to him, then 5 minutes later he would be asking who you are.) He missed an assessment meeting because they wouldn't remind him, or write it down, or make any sort of accommodation for him, and so they almost starved as they had no money. It was only that this relative of mine had gone round to see them, and was able to fight their corner that they didn't die.

PEOPLE DIE because the system is stacked against them. Don't you DARE try and say it isn't true.

People die as a result of every policy measure of a government. It’s a case of balancing your resources. Our taxes for top rate earners are already at the economically optimal level so it’s about spreading it in the best way you can.

i know it sounds heartless but for every person who dies on benefits there is another who dies as a result of a different measure (if you are doing it right). There is no perfect way of doing it but I would rather it was tough for people on benefits but not impossible!

You have the extremities both ways as you see people smoking and doing drugs on programs. You have to make a one size fits all policy where there isn’t one, that’s the issue

Austerity was a joke and lie spun by the socialist monkeys in the Labour party. Their promise to end austerity clearly rang well with the electorate didnt it? Time for Boris to make work and this welfare culture once and for all

It's not people dying on benefits. It's people dying because they are being taken away (or not given) and people are dying because they have NOTHING. I'm not saying that people on unemployment benefits should have cushy lifestyles, be able to go on loads of holidays or whatever, but to throw these people in with the profoundly disabled is wrong.

It is terrible how you are talking about people's lives in such a Laissez-faire manner. No, not all government policies result in deaths. Well, most don't result in such obvious deaths!

Also while not every policy has the obvious cost in lives, in reality they do have a knock on effect, at least long term.

You can argue that any action has a knock on effect.

I'm saying that this has a very real, tangible life cost. You obviously don't know anyone who has actually been affected by this.

If benefits street is so bad why are millions so.desperate to stay on them rather than getting a job? Bit of an obvious paradox right?

The poorest in society do very well in this country living off other peoples cash in their rent free central London properties.

Why did corbs promise unlimited welfare as a way of getting the lazy underclass to vote for him? It failed as it infuriated the working population.

Anyway post brexit plenty of jobs vacated by foreigners so then what is your excuse for choosing welfare over work?