Church of England still homophobic

They're not good Christians or Muslims if they disagree with their religion 💁🏼*♂️. Both religions are very specific on their stance on gay marriages, no point Muslims or Christians trying to delude themselves to fit into social norms.

Saddened at the people here supporting inequality. Besides denying gay people the same rights based on a 2,000 year old book does seem a little “irrational” if you’re going to argue that homophobia means an irrational fear of homosexuality. Anyway if there is an “omnibenevolent” god I’m sure he believe in love, otherwise he is not omnibenevolent.

Saddened at the people here supporting inequality. Besides denying gay people the same rights based on a 2,000 year old book does seem a little “irrational” if you’re going to argue that homophobia means an irrational fear of homosexuality. Anyway if there is an “omnibenevolent” god I’m sure he believe in love, otherwise he is not omnibenevolent.

I am bewildered by people like you. Why do you feel like the majority should conform to the minority, 😂? Its such an arrogant stance that your belief is superior to the belief of billions. If a person believes in the word of God, then there is little you can do to persuade them. Abandoning something '2000' years old seems more irrational to Christians than to accept social norms innovated within the last few decades.

One of the points of religion is that it is believed by its followers to be the word of God.

Thus, in the view of the church it is not up to a priest or pastor to pick and choose religious beliefs, and in doing so go against what they believe to be the command of God, based off of what suits them and makes them happy.

Therefore it is perfectly fine for the Church, and its many millions of followers, to stick to the Christian belief that marriage is a ritual performed between man and woman. In no way does refusing to alter ones religious values based off of popular demand or societal changes constitute homophobia, and it is equally your duty to respect the religious beliefs of others as it is the duty of a Christian to respect your value as a human being, and by holding to their traditional views on gay marriage/ gay intercourse, they are in no way discriminating against you or refusing to accept that members of the LGBT community should be treated equally with respect and kindness.

Just because some CofE believers do not support gay sexual relations, it doesn't mean that all of us don't. In my (CofE) opinion, people should be able to marry etc. whoever they want. Our church allows anyone in and makes sure everyone feels welcomed, not just the heterosexuals.

as it is the duty of a Christian to respect your value as a human being, and by holding to their traditional views on gay marriage/ gay intercourse, they are in no way discriminating against you or refusing to accept that members of the LGBT community should be treated equally with respect and kindness.

No, because they single out gay people to discriminate against, it is the very definition of homophobic behaviour.

If your religion is built on cruelty to others then be a bad follower. Or, alternatively follow the spirit of Jesus's teachings - love and kindness.

Discriminatory behaviour is not "perfectly fine" and there is no compulsion to respect wildly outdated beliefs.

well it might be outdated to you but it isn't to them. People believe that it is God's word and so it has no expiry date. We can't force people to change their personal views. Just be happy we live in a country where people can be exactly who they want to be, whether that's being christian or gay or even both.

He does not only teach love and kindness. Those are only a small part of his teachings. He did not teach his followers to love and respect things that he taught were wrong/evil, for example those money changers and merchants whose tables he turned and whom he violently expelled from the temples of Jerusalem along side his disciples.

I do not think they single out any particular group. They criticise practices they believe are wrong. Groups that disagree with their teachings single those teachings out and broadcast them to the public through affiliated media outlets in this case The Guardian, a marxist, communist newspaper, very anti-religion, pro-feminist, a newspaper that strongly believes in the idea that sexuality is a social construct, a newspaper that has often written articles promoting paedophilia, individuals who promote sex with animals etc.

Its not the church that is singling anyone out. Its people that single its teachings out. If singling groups of people out is a phobia then I think it would be fair to say that those people singling the christian church out for its teachings are christian-phobic.

If you are of member of the CofE then surely you agree with their teachings?

If not then why do you keep following them?

Apart from many of them are more than happy to ignore many of the Bible's rules such as the ban on eating seafood that does not have scales and fins or pork.

I agree with most of their teachings, this is just one that I disagree with, as “we are all one in Christ Jesus” etc etc,
I believe that God made us all in his image, and so we are exactly how he wants us to be - and if that’s homosexual (or anything else (within reason)) then we should support that!

That's an interesting perspective. It sounds beautiful, but I don't know if it's fair. I mean, if G_d made us all in his image and you interpret this as including sexuality, then G_d made paedophiles how he wants them to be...this would imply that G_d finds paedophilia acceptable. I don't think he does. So I do not think your interpretation of this christian principle is correct.

God gave us the free will to do what we want with our lives, and unfortunately some people veer off the right path, that is what comes with us being able to choose.

The term 'phobia' means irrational fear.
Aquaphobia, cynophobia, coulrophobia, haemophobia.