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'Bernie Sanders criticised after embracing endorsement from controversial podcast hos

Should support from controversial figures count against a presidential candidate?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/joe-rogan-bernie-sanders-2020-endorsement-podcast-experience-election-trump-a9299866.html

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Original post by AngeryPenguin


No, that's a logical fallacy
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Joe Rogan isn't far right, but 'real' far right bloggers etc have been writing favourably about Bernie Sanders for 20+ years. His background is not well reported in the UK.
Joe Rogan is not "far right" :facepalm2:
Joe Rogan's ”far-right” beliefs are essentially that biological sex is immutable and that there are differences between the sexes.

Is science offensive now?
"far right ".

Nothing to be dug up on Bernie so the corporate media try anything.
Original post by AngeryPenguin

Rogan far-right? :biggrin: Funniest thing I've read today.
Original post by NotNotBatman
"far right ".

Nothing to be dug up on Bernie so the corporate media try anything.

The media didn't say anything about Rogan being "far right", that was all OP.
Original post by NotNotBatman
"far right ".

Nothing to be dug up on Bernie so the corporate media try anything.

Original post by DiddyDecAlt
The media didn't say anything about Rogan being "far right", that was all OP.

The Independent did say that he was far-right, but that's a lefty paper that is more Guardian reading then the Guardian.
Original post by DiddyDecAlt
The media didn't say anything about Rogan being "far right", that was all OP.

I know that, I was writing that separately, which is why I wrote it in a different paragraph. I tried separating my criticisms of OP from my criticisms of corporate owned media.
Based on what I have heard (which is limited, granted) Bernie would be my choice if I was an American.

And it's like what the guy in the article said. If he takes a few votes away from Trunp at the next election, then that's not a bad thing despite his views. Means to an end maybe?
Original post by LiberOfLondon
The Independent did say that he was far-right, but that's a lefty paper that is more Guardian reading then the Guardian.


Where? The only mention of "far right" in the entire article is this;

and has also faced criticism for inviting far-right figures such as Milo Yiannopoulos and Infowars conspiracy theorist Alex Jones on to his show.
Original post by ajj2000
Joe Rogan isn't far right, but 'real' far right bloggers etc have been writing favourably about Bernie Sanders for 20+ years. His background is not well reported in the UK.

Bloggers such as? The ones I've read like some policies he has, but overall think him someone who's motives are entirely against their interests.
Original post by zetamcfc
Bloggers such as? The ones I've read like some policies he has, but overall think him someone who's motives are entirely against their interests.

Well - the likes of Steve Sailor, Alternative Right / Richard Spencer (I think he also wrote on Taki Mag) etc. General points of support for Bernie:

- he spent years speaking against immigration, particularly low skilled immigration
- in favour of socialised medicine (a big think for the Spencer type alt-right)
- anti-war in the days when most big name democrats were at least somewhat pro-war
- against some free trade agreements/ NAFTA
- targets blue collar voters
Original post by LiberOfLondon
The Independent did say that he was far-right, but that's a lefty paper that is more Guardian reading then the Guardian.


maybe in a different article? here it says he was criticised for inviting far right guests on his show.

What on earth is a lefty paper ? left winged?

My view is that probably 80% of news is bull****. Applies to this paper, nothing to do with it's leaning, I'm left winged and would describe myself as a democratic socialist, I can still see that independent is trash owned by a multimillionaire Russian businessman.
Original post by ajj2000
Well - the likes of Steve Sailor, Alternative Right / Richard Spencer (I think he also wrote on Taki Mag) etc. General points of support for Bernie:

- he spent years speaking against immigration, particularly low skilled immigration
- in favour of socialised medicine (a big think for the Spencer type alt-right)
- anti-war in the days when most big name democrats were at least somewhat pro-war
- against some free trade agreements/ NAFTA
- targets blue collar voters

So if someone you dislike agrees with sensible policies you have, you are supposed to distance yourself from those policies? Seems odd. I mean the fact that Spencer and the rest of the ''far/alt-right'' are without a better description, National Socialists. By that meaning they are nationalist, which Bernie clearly isn't in the sense it is used by the far-right. Also socialist, which Bernie clearly is. Means that there is always going to be a cross over of policies.
Original post by zetamcfc
So if someone you dislike agrees with sensible policies you have, you are supposed to distance yourself from those policies? Seems odd. I mean the fact that Spencer and the rest of the ''far/alt-right'' are without a better description, National Socialists. By that meaning they are nationalist, which Bernie clearly isn't in the sense it is used by the far-right. Also socialist, which Bernie clearly is. Means that there is always going to be a cross over of policies.

Very true - there can often be a large cross over. This is used by political opponents within the democrats to attack candidates such as Bernie - a sort of guilt by association.
Original post by DiddyDecAlt
Where? The only mention of "far right" in the entire article is this;

Ah, I misread the article. Ignore.
Original post by DiddyDecAlt
Joe Rogan is not "far right" :facepalm2:


He has had friendly interviews with Milo Yiannopolous and Jordan Peterson, yelled "you're a ****ing man!" to a transwoman, vocally argued against allowing trans kids puberty blockers, and says the slur word "f*g".

Far-right.
Original post by AngeryPenguin
He has had friendly interviews with Milo Yiannopolous and Jordan Peterson, yelled "you're a ****ing man!" to a transwoman, vocally argued against allowing trans kids puberty blockers, and says the slur word "f*g".

Far-right.

You've boiled someone's entire political philosophy down to a couple of words out of context and interviews with two of the most politically relevant figures of the last 5 years, who have also been on dozens of other podcasts.

He's also done friendly podcasts with Bernie Sanders, Cenk Uygur, Kyle Kulinski, David Pakman and many other avowed leftists, not only that but he's mentioned in 20 dozen podcasts how he's almost completely left-wing, but it's funny how it seems to only work one way, isn't it?

People like you are sheep for the media, nothing more. You have literally zero ability to deduct information for yourself and rely on being spoon fed nonsense by bitter journalists who are looking for their next "far-right" target. Pathetic lmfao

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