Universal Credit

see if you spent a quarter of your passionate view on arguing for billionaire psychos to pay tax that they avoid to the tune of billions I could understand your argument at someone getting £70 a week. get real

see if you spent a quarter of your passionate view on arguing for billionaire psychos to pay tax that they avoid to the tune of billions I could understand your argument at someone getting £70 a week. get real

Anyone watch the BBC show yesterday, it would make taxpayers blood to see the attitude displayed by the applicants on there.

Firstly when in the welfare office whenever the case worker would ask any of the applicants 'do you work'? They would all look back at him/her with a face of incredulity essentially saying 'me work? why should I?'

Then they would all complain the amount given isnt enough well heres a thought sherlock get a job!! The females would enter the office with 3 inches of make up on saying they cant work with the latest iphone in hand.

Then another workless guy at the end said if they dont give me a handout said if they dont pay me I am going to nick stuff but on giro day when he goes to the cash machine to get £hundreds of taxpayers cash he has the obligatory cigarette in mouth so if you aint got money for food where has the money for cigarettes come from?

Another applicant commented the Universal Credit system is so tough I had to go and get a job...hang on a minute isnt that the idea? If not working is going to put you in poverty then get a job and pull yourself out of it.

Given next week episode promises more of the same I can conclude this shows slogan should be 'Britain, a country where only fools work!'

Do you believe the attitude of those chosen is representative? Seems to have triggered you enough to believe thats the case.
Welfare office what is that? You mean JC+?
The biggest group of people on welfare are pensioners, then follow that up with people with disabilities or health issues.
They dont issue giros.
Sounds like a good amount of poverty porn you can get off on, though.

Not sure how much it resembles the reality of how the benefits system works, certainly not from the clients I deal with at various stages.
Sanctioned- homeless- foodbank- disabled.
If the rules are being applied correctly the anyone showing disinterest , misses an interview or fails to show they are seeking employment to the satisfaction of their workcoach will be sanctioned 3 months money, which is easily enough to get them made homeless. The following sanction is a year then 2 years.

This guy missed his appointment recently.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-51283186

UC is a complete disaster, hence they have now put it back to 2024.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51318730

Seems clear you have a predisposition against anyone that uses the benefits system and you view them as all the same.

You even started a new account for this? That is special.

Top 1% of earners in this country pay 25% of the tax take, these 1% can easily go and live in other countries paying no tax whatsoever then where will the money come from to fill the welfare boots?

Welfare office what is that? You mean JC+?
Sounds like a good amount of poverty porn you can get off on, thoug

Yes JC+ office or 'dole office' as its still colloquially knows amongst long term claimants. All channels seem to make enough of the 'poverty' stuff but as a parent pointed out today the working poor are worse off than those on benefits about time that changes

Health issues - you mean like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome and other illness forms which leading medical experts say are psychological not physical conditions hence cant be proven so are good things to use when dont want to work.

So its ok for you to highlight isolated cases online where things may have gone wrong but hows about the thousands that are now working after not bothering to show up to their assessments or being finally told to get a job! Again lack of jobs is no excuse we wouldnt have migrant workers if there were no jobs, everyone conveniently shirks that glaring fact.

6. You have migrant workers because they can make more money than they can in their own country.

Are you going to deny that anyone abuses the system?

Missing the point why are Brits saying there arent any jobs yet at the same time there are 3 million migrants working here? Why arent Brits doing those jobs? Because they think its beneath them or they just plain bone idle.

In fact most of the medical assessors are not doctors they are actually nurses or other allied healthcare professionals. If you are called to attend and dont show up then clearly your benefit will be stopped so question is why dont you show up if you truly think you have a legitimate case?

In years gone by you could simply fill in a few forms and stay on disability benefits with no assessments whatsoever when they were introduced the numbers found fit to work were truly shocking.

No he/she thinks everyone on welfare is genuine with genuine souls and intent to work yet we bizarrely have 3 million workless households in the UK and the tradition of worklessness is handed down from generation to generation

As quoted by learned people repeatedly 'The reason socialism fails is that eventually you run out of other peoples money'

Or they arent qualified or they live in the wrong area or they physically cant do them. Its a very simple world you live in.

You dont need qualifications to clean a hotel room or pick fruit in a field then why do employers say time after time local Brits in those areas dont want to do that work. Live in the wrong area LOL but someone from Latvia lives in right area then? Even employers say Brexit may stop their source of labour so why wont the Brits do those jobs? Answer because they think its beneath them, they are too lazy and welfare provides an easier option.

As the media highlights
'Three-quarters of people who applied for new benefits for the long-term sick failed tests to prove they were too ill to work.

Out of about 840,000 who tried to obtain the £95-a-week Employment and Support Allowance, 640,000 were told they were fit for work, or withdrew their applications before they took the tests – suggesting they were ‘trying it on’.

Incredibly, 7,100 tried to claim because they had sexually transmitted diseases and nearly 10,000 because they were too fat. Only 178,000 – one in four – were given the payment after convincing staff they were actually unable to work.'


Interesting too fat to work or cant work because of the 'clap'!

You dont need qualifications to clean a hotel room or pick fruit in a field then why do employers say time after time local Brits in those areas dont want to do that work. Live in the wrong area LOL but someone from Latvia lives in right area then? Even employers say Brexit may stop their source of labour so why wont the Brits do those jobs? Answer because they think its beneath them, they are too lazy and welfare provides an easier option.

As the media highlights
'Three-quarters of people who applied for new benefits for the long-term sick failed tests to prove they were too ill to work.

Out of about 840,000 who tried to obtain the £95-a-week Employment and Support Allowance, 640,000 were told they were fit for work, or withdrew their applications before they took the tests – suggesting they were ‘trying it on’.

Incredibly, 7,100 tried to claim because they had sexually transmitted diseases and nearly 10,000 because they were too fat. Only 178,000 – one in four – were given the payment after convincing staff they were actually unable to work.'


Interesting too fat to work or cant work because of the 'clap'!

You just seem to want to rant about a system you have no experience or knowledge of, so fill your boots.
There are more interesting and fruitful threads to post on. Have fun.

You just seem to want to rant about a system you have no experience or knowledge of, so fill your boots.
There are more interesting and fruitful threads to post on. Have fun.

That is the reply of someone who doesn't have a reply.

A reply of someone who knows they've just been served.

Not really you will see I have answered in detail enough on this thread, but spend most of my time answering other threads where actual advice is needed. This thread is a pointless rant. Believe it or not most people come on TSR for advice.
You wouldnt know as you never do anything constructive on TSR as it is.
Sock puppets are dull.