Are Brexiteers Stupid?

I was disagreeing with your earlier statement

There is only one choice. The independece day Finally, we have our own - and from someone else. Usually its the other way around

The problem is the political system at the moment is full with people who I have no hope for, Boris is just a clown, corbyns gone, although I didn't like him and his policies, and the rest just to be honest are irrelevant.

Boris isnt a clown, far from it hes a very clever man.

I liked Corbyn from a far but Europe swallowed us whole, Corbyn needed to be stronger and show stronger leadership like Johnson did. What labour did was give the Conservatives the key to our northern heartlands and Boris took them filled his boots. There was not any other choices, the yellow Tories screwed themselves via telling the electorate to go "**** themselves" and no other party was remotely creditable.

What is clear is that all stupids, idiots, fascists, voted for Brexit and Trump. That doesn't make the entire population of Brexiteers and Trump supporters stupids. A large number is however stupid.

Look at the way he acts and talks, like hiding in a fridge from a journalist. The amount of times he lied during the election and the referendum about the EU. What about his past comments about gay people?
He may be a strong leader and did a mix match of stuff in London, but he is certainly a clown.

Ok well let's look at this objectively.

Firstly his comments are not all his comments, some are historic comments from his time as editor of a a media publication he could of edited if he wanted. I'm not a major fan of $*** hunting people historic comments, we travel a dangerous road if we do that. It's going to disproportionately effect the young millennial generation too boot, which ironically are some if the biggest perpetrators of this.

Regards lies, political figures mislead and create spin. That's what they do, the remain camp was full of it, the Tories do it all the time - labour wrecked the economy is an example, for balance we do it particularly around the NHS. So just because Boris is better or more successful at it, hardly makes him a clown - does it?

If hes a clown, hes a very successful one.

But you specifically said the Conservative party, what have they done that is anti scientific?

Yes in fact it does make him a clown, just because he's successful doesn't make him a clown. And I'm not a Labour supporter but if you look at the amount of misinformation perpetuated by the Conservative party and the Labour Party, you will see thst the Conservatives lied a lot more.

When you promote matters in the absence of evidence then you are antiscientific by definition.

Are we still talking about brexit here or party lab vs con politics?

I'm assuming you mis-typed your first line? Your definition of a clown and mine may differ, as if hes a clown, hes a very successful one.

do you not see the irony in that statement

When you promote matters in the absence of evidence then you are antiscientific by definition.

Yeah I did miss type, was supposed to say being successful doesn't exempt you from being a clown. To me a clown is someone who behaves in a comical way, in such Boris is most definately a clown. The way he behaves, his outbursts and his behaviour are all quite comical. Hiding from a journalist when he is running to be in charge of a country, is juvenile and comical, both of which to me show him to be a clown. The amount of lying he does is also comical, again reaferming the idea he is a clown.

It is most likely an act and a performance, but the performance is most definately one of a clown.

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries :-)

This is where the disagreement lies, definition I was looking at the urban slang meaning of the word which us a fool, someone who there's no other word for other than 'clown' it explains how stupid they can be and how little you think about them.

I agree with you, he certainly acts a fake performance of a clown.

Nope.

What matters do they promote with absence of evidence?

I Didn't know that it had been appropriated by urban slang, how disappointing. But yes, it appears we disagree on definition.