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8 coronavirus cases in U.K.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51442314

A man who travelled to Singapore and caught the virus has infected 5 Britons in France, and another 5 who are now being treated in the U.K. The businessman was the third confirmed case in the United Kingdom and was linked to the fourth and the other four new cases. The virus was transmitted to the 5 in France.

There are concerns after one of those who arrived from Wuhan is threatening to leave quarantine before the 14 days are up.

There are claims the outbreak could mirror the influenza epidemic in 1918. The death rate is expected to be around 1% (though 2-3% is claimed by most other sources), however this doesn’t seem to be comparing actual recoveries with deaths, only number of cases with death. (Around 20% of cases seem to result in serious or critical illness).

Edit:
*Note, it could actually be a good thing if there are more cases than recorded, if these unrecorded cases are people with mild cold-like symptoms.

Also a link to statistics: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ which shows for cases with recorded outcomes, 80% have recovered, 20% have died. Although I suspect this death number will lessen overtime, since I expect death usually will happen sooner than recovery. While this death rate seems marginally higher than serious/critical conditions, it’s likely also partly due to some mild cases eventually turning serious (as well as full recovery taking longer than death).

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Reply 1

Em.-.

“2019-nCoV can survive on handles and train poles for nine days.” This means ordering packages may not actually be safe, as the virus can survive without a host for more than a week.
This explains, in addition to globalisation and being infectious without presence of symptoms with a long incubation period, the virus is spreading so rapidly.

Reply 2

Fullofsurprises

GP surgery in Brighton (County Oak Medical Centre) has closed due to an outbreak amongst staff.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51447761

Reply 3

Fullofsurprises

The Brighton super-spreader flew on Easyjet flight EZS8481 from Geneva - Gatwick on 28 Jan. He visited the Grenadier pub in Hove.

Reply 4

Mabey

Original post by Fullofsurprises

GP surgery in Brighton (County Oak Medical Centre) has closed due to an outbreak amongst staff.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51447761

Oh dear, this doesn't look good. Lets hope it gets contained

Reply 5

Fullofsurprises

Original post by Mabey

Oh dear, this doesn't look good. Lets hope it gets contained

I strongly suspect that it's out and running in the UK now, but we can hope.

Reply 6

jenhasdreams

if TSR HQ goes silent, you know why...

Reply 7

Fullofsurprises

Original post by jenhasdreams

if TSR HQ goes silent, you know why...

Oh gosh, I do hope everyone will be OK.

Reply 8

BurstingBubbles

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Original post by jenhasdreams

if TSR HQ goes silent, you know why...

Keep safe, all!

Reply 9

Parties

Original post by Mabey

Oh dear, this doesn't look good. Lets hope it gets contained

This thing isn't getting contained, it's gone beyond containment and all that one can do is hope they do not get infected and, if they do, recover with minimal long-term impacts to their health.

The sort of good thing is that, even though you can be infected when healthy, the virus will have a harder time trying to end you than if you had a weak immune system. Of course, still, do not go to the doctor, phone NHS, get yourself quarantined, and hope you can get adequate treatment for the symptoms.

In my opinion, the virus isn't even the biggest issue. Its the economic effect this will have.

Reply 10

Fullofsurprises

Original post by Parties

In my opinion, the virus isn't even the biggest issue. Its the economic effect this will have.

Yes, it's going to be very disruptive.

So far it looks as if younger and healthier people are pretty safe from the worst effects of it.

Reply 11

Bang Outta Order

Lol how do they know HE infected them? 😂

Rubbishhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Reply 12

Bang Outta Order

Original post by Fullofsurprises

I strongly suspect that it's out and running in the UK now, but we can hope.

lol xenophobic Chinese paranoia...

The propaganda is working 😂

Reply 13

MidgetFever

This isn't helping the scaremongering, lol. People are freaking out as it is.

Reply 14

Fullofsurprises

Original post by MidgetFever

This isn't helping the scaremongering, lol. People are freaking out as it is.

I think giving accurate information is helpful, especially, accurate information about the whereabouts of incidents, so that people can review if they might have come into contact with them. It's important that people who think they might have should report to a doctors or hospital.

Reply 15

username4986690

Original post by Fullofsurprises

GP surgery in Brighton (County Oak Medical Centre) has closed due to an outbreak amongst staff.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51447761

Certainly of concern considering there are two GP surgeries located at the MC with 16,000 patients between them and almost 60 members of staff.

Reply 16

MidgetFever

Original post by Fullofsurprises

That, I understand and I agree with.
The "stats" in OP's post, not so much. "20% of cases being critical" that provides no useful information on how to either avoid or manage it. It's just fuelling the fear over it.

Reply 17

Fullofsurprises

Original post by DiddyDecAlt

Certainly of concern considering there are two GP surgeries located at the MC with 16,000 patients between them and almost 60 members of staff.

The media are saying it's a GP who is reporting infection, from County Oak Medical Centre. A student from Portslade Aldridge Community Academy in Brighton has been asked to remain at home for 2 weeks as they were also in contact.

Reply 18

Fullofsurprises

Original post by MidgetFever

Yes, we don't know the accurate figures for infection and death rates yet. The available figures suggest a 2-3% death rate, mainly amongst the elderly and those with previous chronic medical conditions. The rate of critical care is unclear.