Is the Labour Party finished?

They seem to care about the rainbow people and identity politics over the working class.

They seem to care about the rainbow people and identity politics over the working class.

Sadly not however they will be out of power until 2029.

History teaches us (79-97 and 97-10) that if you thump a party hard enough and enough times they will yield their desire for purity over power (rise of Blair, rise of Cameron).

This defeat has pushed them to at least acknowledge they made failures, another one might do enough to push them over the edge in the following leadership election.

Why would it be sad to see them survive?

Why would it be sad to see them survive?

Some people are very hostile towards socialism/tu political activism and would love to see the Lib Dems replacing Labour as the opposition party.
Ultimately hoping that Labour would decline to the stage of being considered a small fringe political group like the WRP or SWP.

They seem to care about the rainbow people and identity politics over the working class.

I seriously hope not, is the best answer I can give.

We need to get a grip, RLB and Starmer are the the people to get that grip. I'm not confident we will be ready next GE but I hope we are.

Both of those candidates have essentially said that they will submit to the SNP and abandon party support for the union. Indeed RLB has suggested that Labour should ally with Sinn Fein in elections.

Getting a grip seems to be a stretch.

Both of those candidates have essentially said that they will submit to the SNP and abandon party support for the union. Indeed RLB has suggested that Labour should ally with Sinn Fein in elections.

Getting a grip seems to be a stretch.

I disagree with your above description of the Labour Party but yes they are finished. Kier Starmer is their only hope but even if he does get leadership of the party it could still take many general elections to remove the massive Tory majority. If Long Bailey becomes leader then it’s good bye labour.
You also have to remember traditional working class areas in the North East are now staunch Tory. I heard on the radio the other day that people in Blyth think dole payments should be cut by 50%. If that’s how people are thinking then they are hardly potential labour voters.

I seriously hope not, is the best answer I can give.

We need to get a grip, RLB and Starmer are not the people to get that grip. I'm not confident we will be ready next GE but I hope we are.

Yeah, you’re right, but I do hope Labour lose the next general election because they they’ve gone bat **** crazy over identity politics and virtue signalling. Hopefully, the electorate give them another kick up the back side they desperately need. It should then come back to its senses and represent the working class. Blue Labour is the only way.

Blue labour wouldn't be labour at all.

Blue Labour is traditional Labour. The Labour Party was formed to represent the working class. The Labour Party currently represents people who are on benefits, immigrants, feminists and the rainbow people. That is not Labour. Labour should represent manual workers not the metropolitan liberal elite. Do you think a factory worker would give a toss about the Rainbow community. I don’t think so. The Labour Party’s main focus should be on stuff that effect ordinary people and not focus on the identity politics claptrap.