America faces a terrible choice between Sanders and Trump

It seems The Economist has hit the nail on the head here. With America potentially facing a choice between an odious weasel like Trump and a quasi stalinist like Sanders.

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/02/27/bernie-sanders-nominee

You'd rather lose with Biden than win with Sanders wouldn't you?

Sanders would be firmly centrist of left of centre in almost ANY EU country.

Quasi Stalinist

Considering i don't see Sanders having a hope in hell of beating Trump... But yes, it's called principle. Why would I support the left wing version of Trump simply for a marginally better chance of possibly beating him? Nah.

It's hilarious to watch people who identify as liberals or centrists avoid admitting that they're just bog standard conservatives isn't it? Like Sanders is in no way a Stalinist, he's a social democrat at best

Considering i don't see Sanders having a hope in hell of beating Trump... But yes, it's called principle. Why would I support the left wing version of Trump simply for a marginally better chance of possibly beating him? Nah.

Did you even bother reading my comment before running your word hole? It might save you a little embarrassment next time
Equally where have i labelled myself as either a liberal, centrist or conservative?
He's an out and out socialist, self described no less.

So wanting an increase in public spending andfor certain public services to be socialised makes you a stalinist? You're pretty much doing Trump's job for him here.

In the UK and most of Europe Sanders would be considered centre left.

Left wing version of trump? Give your head a wobble. Stalinist? Ah yes, I guess supporting universal health care does make one a stalinist...

I'd long suspected that the Democrats would rather lose to Trump than have a president who supported universal healthcare and here you are, proving that to be true.

This guy who wants universal healthcare and the abolishment of ICE is exactly the same as the guy who keeps kids in cages. I am very smart.

****ing libs man, hilarious how cold their takes are

What you come to realise is that 'centrists' and 'Libs' don't actually oppose Trump's agenda, they just oppose his character.

They want Trump's agenda, just with a Democrat in charge.

I'm not certain that's quite true, I think it's more that libs don't actually believe in anything, let alone human dignity - just the status quo. They don't want to improve anything, but they resist change from all directions and act like any change is the same.

On character though definitely - like being invested in queer liberation I see it clearly with the debate over trans lives but it occurs throughout any sort of progressive politics. Napp and people like him invariably oppose trans rights in part because the idea of improving the lot of one group means changing the status quo and that can't be tolerated, but also because they are entirely focused on style and care not for substance. Like reasonable people see transphobic groups advocating for a complete roll back of queer rights, tantamount to a genocide and obviously oppose it. Liberals though see that desire for a queer genocide presented without raising a voice and then people (rightfully) shouting it down, and being incapable of assessing the substance of an argument believe that the argument presented in a 'reasonable' tone is reasonable even if the substance of that argument is clearly not reasonable. They don't like Trumps agenda in part because it means some change, but even more so because he's loud and angry. They then don't like people like Corbyn or Sanders, and more over see them as the same as Trump, because Corbyn and Sanders are also loud and angry, and being entirely about aesthetic and lacking substance, they are not capable of understanding the righteousness that anger can hold.

This will just become a Clinton-Trump situation and people will vote for the ‘lesser of two evils’ because let’s be honest, they both suck. The last paragraph in the article sums it up well. I mean, why would someone want to ban private healthcare? That’s one step way too far.

It’s like an automatic reaction is when you have someone like Trump in power, the best thing is to put forward the opposite. It’s going to backfire terribly

Also note how Napp is angry at Sanders for taking a holiday... or something, yet he supports Bloomberg who implemented stop and frisk...

****ing libs man, hilarious how cold their takes are

What you come to realise is that 'centrists' and 'Libs' don't actually oppose Trump's agenda, they just oppose his character.

They want Trump's agenda, just with a Democrat in charge.

Please do enlighten us on how liberals don't oppose Trump's agenda?

Trumpism is about as far removed from a liberal democratic agenda (both domestic re: institutions/rule of law and foreign re: isolationism vs internationalism) than any major political movement the US has seen. The divide goes right at the heart of America's founding by those old bloody libs and their hilariously cold French takes.

America’s founders were emphatically not liberals. They were slave owners for a start.

Also note how Napp is angry at Sanders for taking a holiday... or something, yet he supports Bloomberg who implemented stop and frisk...