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China officials knew of coronavirus in December, ordered cover-up

Time to take the idiotic Chinese government to the Hague.

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Chinese scientists knew about the coronavirus and its deadly effects as early as December but were ordered by government officials to suppress the evidence, according to a report.

In late December, several genomics companies tested samples from sick patients in Wuhan the center of the coronavirus outbreak and noticed alarming similarities between their illnesses and the 2002 SARS virus, the Sunday Times of London reported, citing Chinese business news site Caixin Global.

The researchers alerted Beijing of their findings and on Jan. 3, received a gag order from China’s National Health Commission, with instructions to destroy the samples.

Rather than hunkering down to contain the virus, Wuhan officials went ahead with their annual potluck dinner for 40,000 families.

The alleged cover-up continued when representatives from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Jan. 8 visited Wuhan, where officials intentionally withheld information that hospital workers had been infected by patients a telltale sign of contagion.

News of the virus’ highly contagious nature didn’t surface publicly until Jan. 20. Wuhan was locked down and a mass quarantine ordered three days later.

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When angry penguin comes on duty you're gonna get it! 😁😷
this sounds utterly believable. they did exactly the same with their HIV epidemic. totalitarian morons.
Reply 3
Idiotic is putting it very mildly.


Original post by Just my opinion
When angry penguin comes on duty you're gonna get it! 😁😷

He doesn't respond to negative stories.
Original post by Dara Dahl
Time to take the idiotic Chinese government to the Hague.

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Chinese scientists knew about the coronavirus and its deadly effects as early as December but were ordered by government officials to suppress the evidence, according to a report.

In late December, several genomics companies tested samples from sick patients in Wuhan the center of the coronavirus outbreak and noticed alarming similarities between their illnesses and the 2002 SARS virus, the Sunday Times of London reported, citing Chinese business news site Caixin Global.

The researchers alerted Beijing of their findings and on Jan. 3, received a gag order from China’s National Health Commission, with instructions to destroy the samples.

Rather than hunkering down to contain the virus, Wuhan officials went ahead with their annual potluck dinner for 40,000 families.

The alleged cover-up continued when representatives from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Jan. 8 visited Wuhan, where officials intentionally withheld information that hospital workers had been infected by patients a telltale sign of contagion.

News of the virus’ highly contagious nature didn’t surface publicly until Jan. 20. Wuhan was locked down and a mass quarantine ordered three days later.


Had you been paying attention to the virus from the beginning you would know this article to be the trash, or beyond the trash.

If you read my megathread
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6375456
you will note that:

The virus was reported on in Western media at the latest in December 31st 2019.
It was reported that it was SARS-like in very early January 2020.
Samples destroyed? That is common practice for highly contagious diseases, once research is complete, because you do not want researchers to be accidentally exposed.
Representatives from the US CDC would never have full access to infectious disease information in China. The US is opposed to China, why would China allow them to poke around healthcare facilities freely? Speaking of the US CDC, they are engaged in their own cover-up, underplaying the danger of the virus in the US, and using faulty test kits, and accidentally letting an infected woman out of quarantine.
Nobody knew the virus was so infectious at the beginning, because at the beginning there is very little data to go on, lol.
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Original post by AngeryPenguin
Had you been paying attention to the virus from the beginning you would know this article to be the trash, or beyond the trash.

If you read my megathread
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6375456
you will note that:

The virus was reported on in Western media at the latest in December 31st 2019.
It was reported that it was SARS-like in very early January 2020.
Samples destroyed? That is common practice for highly contagious diseases, once research is complete, because you do not want researchers to be accidentally exposed.
Representatives from the US CDC would never have full access to infectious disease information in China. The US is opposed to China, why would China allow them to poke around healthcare facilities freely? Speaking of the US CDC, they are engaged in their own cover-up, underplaying the danger of the virus in the US, and using faulty test kits, and accidentally letting an infected woman out of quarantine.
Nobody knew the virus was so infectious at the beginning, because at the beginning there is very little data to go on, lol.

+10 social credit points - well done, 1 more loaf of bread for you :smile:

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Original post by AngeryPenguin
Had you been paying attention to the virus from the beginning you would know this article to be the trash, or beyond the trash.

If you read my megathread
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6375456
you will note that:

The virus was reported on in Western media at the latest in December 31st 2019.
It was reported that it was SARS-like in very early January 2020.
Samples destroyed? That is common practice for highly contagious diseases, once research is complete, because you do not want researchers to be accidentally exposed.
Representatives from the US CDC would never have full access to infectious disease information in China. The US is opposed to China, why would China allow them to poke around healthcare facilities freely? Speaking of the US CDC, they are engaged in their own cover-up, underplaying the danger of the virus in the US, and using faulty test kits, and accidentally letting an infected woman out of quarantine.
Nobody knew the virus was so infectious at the beginning, because at the beginning there is very little data to go on, lol.


You say that they destroyed the samples because it is highly infectious but then you conclude by saying they didn't know it was highly infectious.

So which is it, did they know or didn't they know?
Original post by DiddyDec
You say that they destroyed the samples because it is highly infectious but then you conclude by saying they didn't know it was highly infectious.

So which is it, did they know or didn't they know?


You are strange.

They researched the new virus, discovered it was highly infectious, and decided to destroy the samples.
Original post by AngeryPenguin
You are strange.

They researched the new virus, discovered it was highly infectious, and decided to destroy the samples.


It is not common to destroy research samples as they can be vital for developing vaccines and cures. It was only very recently that an effort was made to eradicate what was left of smallpox from lab stores.
I don't agree with withholding stuff like this from the public, but I can see why they did it. Media coverage can lead to mass panic and such, which obviously a government hates.
Still not on a good thing in my books though - we could have prepared better if we knew sooner.
EDIT: Now read the above, page refreshed: That makes sense.
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Original post by SnowMiku
I don't agree with withholding stuff like this from the public, but I can see why they did it. Media coverage can lead to mass panic and such, which obviously a government hates.
Still not on a good thing in my books though - we could have prepared better if we knew sooner.
EDIT: Now read the above, page refreshed: That makes sense.

Panic is bad for everyone.
Reply 12
Original post by AngeryPenguin
Had you been paying attention to the virus from the beginning you would know this article to be the trash, or beyond the trash.

If you read my megathread
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6375456
you will note that:

The virus was reported on in Western media at the latest in December 31st 2019.
It was reported that it was SARS-like in very early January 2020.
Samples destroyed? That is common practice for highly contagious diseases, once research is complete, because you do not want researchers to be accidentally exposed.
Representatives from the US CDC would never have full access to infectious disease information in China. The US is opposed to China, why would China allow them to poke around healthcare facilities freely? Speaking of the US CDC, they are engaged in their own cover-up, underplaying the danger of the virus in the US, and using faulty test kits, and accidentally letting an infected woman out of quarantine.
Nobody knew the virus was so infectious at the beginning, because at the beginning there is very little data to go on, lol.

We can only be thankful that the Chinese state bioweapons labs are so incompetent that they can't deliver a decent plague virus. A touch of flu? Is that all they've got? Pfft!
Reply 13
Original post by AngeryPenguin
You are strange.

They researched the new virus, discovered it was highly infectious, and decided to destroy the samples.

They would say that, wouldn't they?
Now everyone says that it’s been covered up since December? Sheesh it’s taken that long for ppl to realise huh
Reply 15
As the old American saying goes, the Chinese word for crisis also means opportunity. Just as Chinese gov is politically weaponising this crisis, I sense that dissenters will at least be leaking some details that Beijing does not want to be known, as they did with the Xinjiang files.


With all due respect to your doctor friend, we already have whistleblowers who came forward after being silenced. China is a totalitarian state and so by nature a closed system where virtually all information coming out is controlled by the Party. It would be about as wise to give the CPC the benefit of the doubt as many in the West did for the Soviet Union during the Holodomor.
Preach spread the word. This pandemic we are seeing now was caused by China's prioritisation of their economy over people, and there totalitarian government.
Reply 17
Original post by DiddyDec
You say that they destroyed the samples because it is highly infectious but then you conclude by saying they didn't know it was highly infectious.

So which is it, did they know or didn't they know?


that was clever
Reply 18
Original post by Ciel_
that was clever

wtf 😠 get out.
Reply 19
China 'didn't report 43,000 silent carriers'

The South China Morning Post reported on Monday that classified government data it obtained show that more than 43,000 so-called silent carriers were not counted in the number of confirmed cases by the end of February.

China reported around 79,000 confirmed cases as of the end of last month.

The paper said that when silent carriers are taken into account, the number of infected people on the mainland exceeds 120,000.

Chinese health authorities said on February 14 that people who were infected but showed no symptoms would be quarantined and monitored for two weeks, but not counted as coronavirus patients.

The authorities also said they would not disclose the number of silent carriers in the country.

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