Do Black Lives Matter? Then Make Votes Matter!

There was a legally binding referendum held and the result of that gives us out current voting system:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum

There are other ways of effecting change than just wanting a different number of BAME MPs. What are the actual issues you want addressed?

Can honestly say this is the first time I've heard anyone accuse the voting system itself of being racist

I think you are smart enough to understand racial bias and institutional designs that have it. You don't have to play dumb for laughs. I have seen your posts, you can do so much better.

AV is not PR, what points did you disagree with and why? Thanks.

1. The public has already decided it doesn't want AV and it was agreed to abide by this.

2. A starting point for potentially inceasing the number of BAME MPs is for candidates to stand in the first place, so is that happening? Does that make them the best person for job? Why can't any MP deal with matters of racial injustice; didn't a white American President abolish slavery?

3. What racial injustice matters do you want addressing?

Our current first-past-the-post system does tend to hand 100% of the power to the largest minority. Proportional systems give a voice and power to a wider range of opinions and backgrounds. But how to get from here to there when it would involve the current ruling elites relinquishing their power?

Can honestly say this is the first time i've heard anyone accuse the voting system itself of being racist

Not sure what "playing dumb" has to do with this. You can accuse the political establishment and its mechanisms of action of being racist (whether those are justified being another argument) but the idea that FPTP is inherently designed to be racist is bunk in ones view.
Take your dual arguments about ethnics tending to live in the city and rural people being in a position of disproportionate power. The former of which seems to have rather little to do with Britains system of voting.. whether various minorities tend to live in the metropolitan areas seems rather irrelevant to the national voting system. On the second though, and more broadly, your inference that we need ethnic MPs simply for the sake of it seems somewhat disingenuous. Last time i checked the MPs were meant to be elected based on their suitability for the job, not some petty box ticking exercise..
However, if we take it to its logical conclusion, you want precisely 3.4% of MPs to be of african descent (and so on so forth) so as to be completely equitably? Forgive me for finding such policies based entirely on race distasteful for the nation.

What does the 'current ruling elite' have to do with this? The public were given a referendum on this recently and they rejected it quite handily.

What does the 'current ruling elite' have to do with this? The public were given a referendum on this recently and they rejected it quite handily.

I am Black British and welcome people tweeting Black Lives Matter. But there is an element of racial injustice built into our electoral system as a result of the unfair voting system, First Past Post The Post.

It is harder to make an effective change as a racial minority when the voting system used in the United Kingdom (UK) continues to elect governments with a minority of support. For example, the UK Conservative Party are in government with a 43% minority of the popular vote.

Also, racial and religious minorities are more likely to be born in densely populated urban areas. The UK voting system and constituency boundaries give a rural area voter, more power. PR gives rural & urban citizen fair & equal-weighted votes. Lastly, PR increases the number of BAME MPs and Government Ministers.

So, therefore, PR & racial justice are linked.

Do Black Lives Matter?

Then Make Votes Matter!

Start demanding PR voting now.

(AV is not PR)

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AV is not PR. How many times do I have to repeat myself? If you can stop avoiding me, I will readily engage.

I have never read such a complete lack of misunderstanding of basic Politics. This is A level grade level stuff and your rant was not good, sorry. It was not good at all.

Institutional biases can be on purpose by design or an accident. The reason why the UK voting system disenfranchises Ethnic minorities in the UK is through the combination of most being born into dense urban areas. They have a higher population density and so their lack of geographical spread decreases their vote if they for example wish to vote for a party that is anti-racist. It requires more to do so.

You should take a political class.

The referendum was for AV, which isn't even proportional, plus it had a bad turnout & bad campaigning. I'd hazard a guess that most people aren't even aware of our current system or how flawed it is, and I think that awareness needs to come first before we can ever hope to change to a fairer, more proportional system

Indeed it did, that doesnt quite detract from the point though.

Indeed you're right, the system naturally has its own flaws, as well as strengths. However, that doesnt mean the system is unfit for purpose and it certainly doesnt mean the OP is right in its assertions.

First past the post benefits the Tories. That's the only reason I like it.