Are teachers paid enough

Obviously no. How can you attract the best graduates into teaching when you still pay them crap and give them an impossible workload?

Plus, how two NQTs or even second/third year classroom teachers are supposed to be able to buy someone in London or the SE on their paltry salaries is beyond me.

No. The starting salary is due to increase to £30,000 by 2022 which will help, and is definitely a better idea with regards to retention than the bursaries are. Whether the rest of pay scale is increased commensurately remains to be seen, but if not then this will make it harder for NQTs to gain positions as they will no longer be so much cheaper than experienced teachers. That being said, I am sure the experienced teachers will enjoy not being managed out of positions when the school can no longer afford them. Perhaps more important than a pay increase is a change to the working environment, but teachers can achieve both if they teach abroad so there is an additional brain drain to consider if things don't change.



I don't think I would want to work with teachers who engage in the purchase of human chattel. I don't begrudge any upwardly mobile NQTs engaging in the middle class dream of hiring a cleaner once a fortnight, but I think this is a step too far....

Obviously no. How can you attract the best graduates into teaching when you still pay them crap and give them an impossible workload?

Exactly. Teachers have one of the most important jobs in society, teaching the next generation of people, bu they still get paid next to nothing

You are also guarenteed pay progression for the first 6 years of teaching.

yes or no

And don't forget, we only work 3/4 of the year.

Automatic pay progression disappeared a few years ago. It's now progress-based, and this is usually on Progress 8 or the like. And it's not difficult to see what happens when you tie the pay of an already demoralised staff to the whims of SLT.

No. Main Teachers Payscale M1 to M6 is guarenteed. Upper payscale is digressionary and unions are adamant that pay progression shpuld not be linked to outcomes that are outside of teachers control.

But can you think of any other profession where staff automatically go up the pay grades for simply turning up each day? I think it entirely fair that teachers are held to high standards by the tax payer.

The difference between now and 5-10 years ago is that all the sh1t teachers who used to turn up and coast have now left or have being forced out and rightly so.

This is just not true though. Teachers don't 'just work 3/4 of the year' and spend the other quarter kicking their heels up in the Algarve, or sunning themselves on Mustique. Most of that 1/4 'holiday' is spent planning, developing and creating resources, putting sticking plasters over what could barely be contained during the term...

As if an everyday classroom teacher gets a quarter of a year off on 'holiday'...!

are teachers paid enough?

Can pigs fly?

The difference between now and 5-10 years ago is that all the sh1t teachers who used to turn up and coast have now left or have being forced out and rightly so.

B0llocks to that! You can plan if you like. I spend that time recovering / looking afyer my kids.

All my planning has been done now. It is marking that's the kilker and there is no way I'm doing that in the holidays.

Can you see the irony of those two posts?

And you're really a teacher? Like, a teacher of children in a school setting in the UK...?

Yep. I teach secondary in the UK. You seem surprised that there is an outstanding teacher (I have evidence to support this) who enjoys their job and isn't worked to the bone?